2100 CIS and pigment/dye inks
2003-02-28 by Keith Cooper
Hi Below is part of a recent post on the 'Prodig' group <http://www.prodig.org> about a forthcoming bulk ink system for the 2100. I thought it might be of interest to fellow group members? I have no connection with John Read or his company <http://www.marrutt.com>, other than as a satisfied customer for Lyson SG inks on my 1160. As an unrelated aside ... The 'Prodig' group has quite well enforced 'relevancy' guidelines, with transgressors likely to receive a swift off-list reminder from one of the duty list-moms. Not an approach for everyone ;-)) but it keeps the content up to a good level (IMHO) bye for now Keith Cooper Northlight Images http://northlight-images.co.uk Photography - Digital Imaging - Apple Mac Consultancy Tel +44 (0)116 291 9092 Mobile +44 (0)780 162 9397 From John Read:
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> > ...the two inkset options we are evaluating is a Lyson pigment+dye > inkset, which seems to emulate Epson Ultrachrome in testing, > and the traditional Lyson Fotonic dye-based inkset in seven > channels, which Lyson have successfully produced for a number > of years, and is very much a known quantity.. > > We took just under 1000 enquiries at Focus on Imaging > about the Epson 2100 bulk system. - During this show, > we took in a lot of feedback from existing customers who > use Epson ultrachrome inks and use the Epson 2100: > > It appears that this printer, while having great features, is > VERY thirsty on ink - we used almost 50ml x 7 channels > of ink during the show (more than twice what we would > have expected) - Buying Epson cartridge inks at around > £1000 / Litre makes this printer rather expensive, whereas > when you run it with a bulk feed system, your costs can be > as low as £70 / Litre when using bulk inks bought in > 1 Litre bottles... > > Many Epson 2100 customers have been complaining > of metamerism with the pigment Epson inks, which we find > is virtually eliminated with the Lyson Fotonic ink option. > > No need to change black cartridges when printing from gloss > to matt media. > > Constantly changing cartridges can upset the nozzle alignment > - once you fit a CIS system, you eliminate the need for putting > any pressure on the inkjet carrier assembly. > > Current appearance testing / profiling is showing us that an > extremely high print speed is achievable with this inkset / printer > combination - we are finding that we are able to successfully > profile down to 720 dpi with reasonable print quality. > > The seven channel Lyson Fotonic inkset (Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, > Light Cyan, Light Magenta, 100% Black and dilute Black) is > very easy to profile to give excellent smooth neutral monochromes, > and accurate colours with the widest possible gamut. > > Rather than being restricted to a very few fast drying papers, we > found that we were able to print on every usual inkjet media (as > would be expected from a well-proven dye-based formula) > including Ilford Galerie Classic Pearl - he best pearl finish on the > market at present, and interestingly, also produces amazing > results using Pictorico High Gloss Film distributed from Permajet > - The prints we produced at the show showed almost Cibachrome > vibrancy, colour range and gloss. > > The reason for the posting is that we ran two inksets at the show, > started running the pigement inkset option, but the > moment we started our second Epson 2100 printer loaded with Lyson > Fotonic, people really started to get keen - against the expected > present - day trend which seems to favour pigment inksets. > > Bulk CIS systems bring many advantages, but a disadvantage is > that you are not able to easily change inkset type once you have > committed yourself to a particular type - the donor cartridge contains > foam, which is almost impossible to completely clean out.. > > If we can clearly gauge the pigment / dye preference, we are then > better equipped to advise the hundreds of buyers of this system.. > > Best Wishes - and thanks for the mail.. > > John Read > MD - Marrutt Digital > Exclusive UK distributors - Lyson Limited + VTC Software Training Inc > > ps: > > To show the benefits of custom profiling (we only > use Thomas Holm / Neil Barstow / Udo Machiels), almost > every print shown on our stand and gallery was produced > from the raw digital file, either Flextight scan, Minolta > Dimage 7, Nikon D100, Fuji S2 Pro or Canon D30 > with no colour balancing applied at all, most prints > sized up to 20" x 36" using photoshop interpolation > to 180 ppi, and printing to 1440 dpi.