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Re: Adhesive

2003-03-16 by John/Julie Gittins

On 03/15/03  4:28 PM "Victor Simon" ibsimon@... wrote:      
>I'm interested in the adhesive you mention below.  Did you buy the $499 
>applicator from Light Impressions, or use the included plastic 
>squeegee?  Also, the last time I checked out adhesion, I could find no 
>archival, pressure-sensitive (no-heat) adhesives.  
On 03/15/03 4:54 PM "Charles Bandes" byronbulb@... wrote: 
>I've been curious about the adhesive used in the "Xyron" system (xyron.com) 
>- it's a cold-mounting process, and they claim archival adhesive, and list 
>photo mounting as one of the uses of their system. The machine that can 
>handle 8x10 is $100ish, the bigger ones are substantially more. Looks like 
>the adhesive itself costs about .75 per 8x10. 

Vic and Charles,

From the product info on the xyron site, it looks to me like all the 
Xyron mounting machines (different sizes) are similar in kind to the 
one (20" wide) that Light Impressions sells. And the repositionable 
adhesive ("#568") that L.I. handles sounds similar to one of the different 
types offered by Xyron. On comparable products, the pricing seems about 
the same.
 
I mentioned the "#568" adhesive in my earlier post because it was the 
one cited in the Univ.of Chicago Library's "White Paper" on materials 
that support long-term archival preservation; (I think it was Paul Roark 
who pointed to this document in a post a few months back -- I can't find 
the U. Chi. Library address, but my note says that the the 2 adhesives 
they recommended were the #568 sheets and 3M's #415 two-sided tape). 
Since in the past I've found that some "archival" materials were later 
found not to be such, I noted #568 to keep things simple and put just 
one adhesive on the board that's widely-approved and a safe bet for a 
material that will keep Epson Professional Glossy paper (and others 
like it)flat for a very long time. But there are other options that 
I'd also trust.  

For my own efforts to date with cold-mount materials, I've used a product 
called "Clear Mount" that I get from TALAS (www.talasonline.com) in NYC, 
a company that specializes in library-type conservation stuff; (their 
prices are good, their product knowledge (via Jake and his son, Aaron)is 
unusually deep, and their service is excellent). With "Clear Mount", I've 
always done hand burnishing, but this was for paintings on paper, not photo 
prints -- the occasional wrinkles that I've gotten when applying the 
Clear Mount sheet were not a problem for the paintings, but they would be 
for photos.  So I'm going to try some other archival products that TALAS 
carries. One is "GUDY 'O' (#870)", which is a thinner film than Clear Mount; 
(GUDY 'O' is available in a number of widths, from 3/4" to 48" in 33ft 
rolls, and is about 60 cents/sq ft). Another is "GUDY 'V' (#831), which 
comes in 33ft rolls either 7.8" or 15.6" wide, and is heavier-duty than 
the 'O' type). With all of these adhesive sheets, I'll use a print "brayer" 
(available in different widths from art-supply places -- "Speedball" brand 
isn't expensive and they're good -- a brayer is like a paint roller, 
but it has a smooth and even rubber surface rather than the fuzzy kind 
that's used for spreading paint) rather than shell out $500 for a machine 
that can handle 13" wide paper. 

In short, I guess what I'm saying is that I think there are a number of 
archival cold-mount adhesives available which look like they'd provide 
permanent mounting of photo prints to all kinds of supports (mat board, 
sheet aluminum, lexan (a long-lasting plexiglass), etc). My personal 
preference is to go with these cold-mount materials and avoid subjecting 
prints to the heat of traditional dry-mounting.       

Regards,
John  



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Re: Adhesive

2003-03-17 by vicmeister2003

John,

Thanks for the info-packed post on cold-mounting (message#28153)!

-Vic

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