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> I've got a clogged black head on my 1280 with VM inks
> and CIS.  Tried Windex on the pad to no avail and
> really don't want to do direct injection.  So I
> ordered the EZ plugs and bought some OEM carts to put
> in for a while.. I've heard this can work.
> 
> Any last minute tips before I do this?  Any issues
> with air getting into the CIS carts?  Doesn't seem
> *too* complicated, but just thought I'd ask anyway.
> 
> Thanks for the help,
> 
>   -daniel p\ufffdrez
> 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Mathews [mailto:ed@...]
Sent: mercoledì 19 marzo 2003 12:52
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Horrible banding with new 1280 and eboni ink


Same exact problem with my new 1280.  I can make about 1 good print then
I get banding from the clogs and have to wait a few hours for it to
clear again.  After I use up all the MIS ink I'm going to buy some new
Epson cartriges and then send it back to Epson.

Thanks,
Ed
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Olson [mailto:jerryolson@...] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 11:54 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Horrible banding with new 1280 and eboni ink
> 
> 
> Daniel,
> 
> I'm about to try this myself today. I still can't get a good nozzle
> check after all this time. Every other time I run a cleaning, i either
> get a horrible nozzle check or a fairly good one, meaning 
> about 20 lines
> are still missing. Next cleaning, and there's about 80 lines missing,
> then about 20, then 80 and so on. It isn't the same lines that are
> missing each time either, so the nozzles are plugging up, 
> then clearing,
> then plugging, then clearing, etc.  I can't imagine what 
> would cause this.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > I've got a clogged black head on my 1280 with VM inks
> > and CIS.  Tried Windex on the pad to no avail and
> > really don't want to do direct injection.  So I
> > ordered the EZ plugs and bought some OEM carts to put
> > in for a while.. I've heard this can work.
> > 
> > Any last minute tips before I do this?  Any issues
> > with air getting into the CIS carts?  Doesn't seem
> > *too* complicated, but just thought I'd ask anyway.
> > 
> > Thanks for the help,
> > 
> >   -daniel pérez
> > 
> > __________________________________________________
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> 
> Sigh! I just need new ink and now I'm stuck... Ed, are you using a CIS/CFS
> as well or plain cartridges? Is there any chance that these problems are
> only related to CIS/CFS and may not appear if one fills standard cartridges
> (as I do)?
> 
> Alessandro
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Mathews [mailto:ed@...]
> Sent: mercoled\ufffd 19 marzo 2003 12:52
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Horrible banding with new 1280 and eboni ink
> 
> Same exact problem with my new 1280.  I can make about 1 good print then
> I get banding from the clogs and have to wait a few hours for it to
> clear again.  After I use up all the MIS ink I'm going to buy some new
> Epson cartriges and then send it back to Epson.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ed
> http://lightandsilver.com <http://lightandsilver.com>
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jerry Olson [mailto:jerryolson@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 11:54 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Horrible banding with new 1280 and eboni ink
> >
> >
> > Daniel,
> >
> > I'm about to try this myself today. I still can't get a good nozzle
> > check after all this time. Every other time I run a cleaning, i either
> > get a horrible nozzle check or a fairly good one, meaning
> > about 20 lines
> > are still missing. Next cleaning, and there's about 80 lines missing,
> > then about 20, then 80 and so on. It isn't the same lines that are
> > missing each time either, so the nozzles are plugging up,
> > then clearing,
> > then plugging, then clearing, etc.  I can't imagine what
> > would cause this.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I've got a clogged black head on my 1280 with VM inks
> > > and CIS.  Tried Windex on the pad to no avail and
> > > really don't want to do direct injection.  So I
> > > ordered the EZ plugs and bought some OEM carts to put
> > > in for a while.. I've heard this can work.
> > >
> > > Any last minute tips before I do this?  Any issues
> > > with air getting into the CIS carts?  Doesn't seem
> > > *too* complicated, but just thought I'd ask anyway.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help,
> > >
> > >   -daniel p\ufffdrez
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Mathews [mailto:ed@...]
Sent: mercoledì 19 marzo 2003 16:31
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Horrible banding with new 1280 and eboni ink


No, I've only used carts.  First, the original ones that came with the
printer, and then this set of VM ink from MIS.  Same problem with both,
and only on the black head.

Thanks,
Ed
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alessandro Pardi [mailto:alessandro.pardi@...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 6:58 AM
> To: 'DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Horrible banding with new 1280 and eboni ink
> 
> 
> Sigh! I just need new ink and now I'm stuck... Ed, are you 
> using a CIS/CFS
> as well or plain cartridges? Is there any chance that these 
> problems are
> only related to CIS/CFS and may not appear if one fills 
> standard cartridges
> (as I do)?
>  
> Alessandro
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Mathews [mailto:ed@...]
> Sent: mercoledì 19 marzo 2003 12:52
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Horrible banding with new 1280 and eboni ink
> 
> 
> Same exact problem with my new 1280.  I can make about 1 good 
> print then
> I get banding from the clogs and have to wait a few hours for it to
> clear again.  After I use up all the MIS ink I'm going to buy some new
> Epson cartriges and then send it back to Epson.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ed
> http://lightandsilver.com <http://lightandsilver.com>  <
http://lightandsilver.com <http://lightandsilver.com> >  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jerry Olson [mailto:jerryolson@...] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 11:54 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Horrible banding with new 1280 and eboni ink
> > 
> > 
> > Daniel,
> > 
> > I'm about to try this myself today. I still can't get a good nozzle
> > check after all this time. Every other time I run a 
> cleaning, i either
> > get a horrible nozzle check or a fairly good one, meaning 
> > about 20 lines
> > are still missing. Next cleaning, and there's about 80 
> lines missing,
> > then about 20, then 80 and so on. It isn't the same lines that are
> > missing each time either, so the nozzles are plugging up, 
> > then clearing,
> > then plugging, then clearing, etc.  I can't imagine what 
> > would cause this.
> > 
> > Jerry
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > I've got a clogged black head on my 1280 with VM inks
> > > and CIS.  Tried Windex on the pad to no avail and
> > > really don't want to do direct injection.  So I
> > > ordered the EZ plugs and bought some OEM carts to put
> > > in for a while.. I've heard this can work.
> > > 
> > > Any last minute tips before I do this?  Any issues
> > > with air getting into the CIS carts?  Doesn't seem
> > > *too* complicated, but just thought I'd ask anyway.
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the help,
> > > 
> > >   -daniel pérez
> > > 
> > > __________________________________________________
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> 
> Jerry,
> 
> I have just installed the Black & White Ultra Tones in 1280 system last
> night.  I did not use a CIS system for this, as I wanted to try the ink
> in cartridges first.  I filled them last night, ran a test purge print,
> and got banding on half of the six stripes.  I let the cartridges sit
> overnight, and before I left for work tried it again.  I still got
> banding, but now it is on all the stripes.  I am that concerned as this
> was similar to the banding I was getting when I was running a CIS
> (Niagara G4 ink) on the 1280 prior.  In the end, the ink settled when I
> left it alone for about a week (as prior posts have indicated), ran a
> couple of cleaning/nozzle checks, and everything was fine from that
> point forwards with a few nozzle checks when I didn't use the printer
> for awhile.
> 
> Perhaps, I am jumping the gun with this inkset that it shows great
> promise, but I am very hopeful that this new ink(at least for me) set
> will work out well.
> 
> Eileen
> 
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> few minutes ago, and will keep fingers crossed.
> 
> thanks,
> alessandro
>

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Olson [mailto:jerryolson@...]
Sent: mercoledì 19 marzo 2003 18:44
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Horrible banding with new 1280 and eboni ink



Something got mixed up somewhere alessandro...

I had no problems with OEM carts, they are the solution to unclogging
your printheads. They clean out the printheads. 


Alessandro Pardi wrote:
> 
> Ah! So you're saying you got banding also with the original Epson cart?
That
> should prove it's not the inks... 

No, I had NO problems with the original carts. they clear up the
problem. I did at first, but I let them set an hour after installation
while I went to dinner. No clogs at all when I came back. Takes a few
minutes for the ink to get through the heads, I guess.

Well, I'm jumping in, placed my order a
> few minutes ago, and will keep fingers crossed.
> 
> thanks,
> alessandro
>


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> 
> Eileen, did you get the entire set of ultratones, or just the eboni
> black? If you order the 4.3 version of MIS VM inks, are you getting ultratones?
> 
> Anyone know the difference between the two inks on the actual finished print?
> 
> I did let the printer set for 3 days, but the banding problem was worse
> than ever. I'm trying a new set of carts and inks now, and we'll see
> what happens. Reinstalling the OEM color inks took ALL the banding and
> clogs away.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> Eileen Chun wrote:
> >
> > Jerry,
> >
> > I have just installed the Black & White Ultra Tones in 1280 system last
> > night.  I did not use a CIS system for this, as I wanted to try the ink
> > in cartridges first.  I filled them last night, ran a test purge print,
> > and got banding on half of the six stripes.  I let the cartridges sit
> > overnight, and before I left for work tried it again.  I still got
> > banding, but now it is on all the stripes.  I am that concerned as this
> > was similar to the banding I was getting when I was running a CIS
> > (Niagara G4 ink) on the 1280 prior.  In the end, the ink settled when I
> > left it alone for about a week (as prior posts have indicated), ran a
> > couple of cleaning/nozzle checks, and everything was fine from that
> > point forwards with a few nozzle checks when I didn't use the printer
> > for awhile.
> >
> > Perhaps, I am jumping the gun with this inkset that it shows great
> > promise, but I am very hopeful that this new ink(at least for me) set
> > will work out well.
> >
> > Eileen
> >
> >
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> BTW, I can understand your utter frustration: I spent over a month trying to
> get my 1160 back to work after a long period of inactivity, and finally
> resolved to spend 50 bucks on a set of OEM inks and got my nozzle checks
> back to order. Now I ordered this new Eboni (with FS grays), and I hope that
> everything will be fine.
> Don't give up, see you somewhere in the next print exchanges :-)
> 
> Alessandro
>

> 
> Jerry,
> 
> I got the entire set of Ultatones, and installed the Eboni ink.
> 
> Eileen
> 
> Jerry Olson wrote:
> >
> > Eileen, did you get the entire set of ultratones, or just the eboni
> > black? If you order the 4.3 version of MIS VM inks, are you getting ultratones?
> >
> > Anyone know the difference between the two inks on the actual finished print?
> >
> > I did let the printer set for 3 days, but the banding problem was worse
> > than ever. I'm trying a new set of carts and inks now, and we'll see
> > what happens. Reinstalling the OEM color inks took ALL the banding and
> > clogs away.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > Eileen Chun wrote:
> > >
> > > Jerry,
> > >
> > > I have just installed the Black & White Ultra Tones in 1280 system last
> > > night.  I did not use a CIS system for this, as I wanted to try the ink
> > > in cartridges first.  I filled them last night, ran a test purge print,
> > > and got banding on half of the six stripes.  I let the cartridges sit
> > > overnight, and before I left for work tried it again.  I still got
> > > banding, but now it is on all the stripes.  I am that concerned as this
> > > was similar to the banding I was getting when I was running a CIS
> > > (Niagara G4 ink) on the 1280 prior.  In the end, the ink settled when I
> > > left it alone for about a week (as prior posts have indicated), ran a
> > > couple of cleaning/nozzle checks, and everything was fine from that
> > > point forwards with a few nozzle checks when I didn't use the printer
> > > for awhile.
> > >
> > > Perhaps, I am jumping the gun with this inkset that it shows great
> > > promise, but I am very hopeful that this new ink(at least for me) set
> > > will work out well.
> > >
> > > Eileen
> > >
> > >
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Olson [mailto:jerryolson@...]
Sent: mercoledì 19 marzo 2003 20:41
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Horrible banding with new 1280 and eboni ink


Alessandro, let me know how your new inks and carts work please.

jerry


> BTW, I can understand your utter frustration: I spent over a month trying
to
> get my 1160 back to work after a long period of inactivity, and finally
> resolved to spend 50 bucks on a set of OEM inks and got my nozzle checks
> back to order. Now I ordered this new Eboni (with FS grays), and I hope
that
> everything will be fine.
> Don't give up, see you somewhere in the next print exchanges :-)
> 
> Alessandro
>


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