Digital BW, The Print

Hi Dan,

On longevity, I just went back over my files 
to informal window fading tests done over 
the last couple of years including alpha and 
beta Spectratone inkset (we are on the theta 
set which is now released and which you are 
using) and record no fading ever on the 
ilford media and a couple of others like the 
Ultrastable Glossy Canvas, Oce WaterColor, 
Red River Sheer, WeberValentine Photo 
Satin 170 (they might have 2 versions)

A same time side by side test to the Roland 
Pigmented Inkset in the 3000 (yes it runs 
through fine) shows the Roland 4 color 
Pigmented to just start to fade on 3 out of 11 
media.  

Well, I would be most interested in the 
opinion of others in the longevity of this 
inkset on ilford media.   It's always good to 
get a variety of test conditions.

Right now in current window tests, they are 
their typically unmoved state compared 
several common pigmented inkset 
combinations.

Dump em into the Florida sun down there 
and let us know how they fare compared to 
anything.


Allen Maertz

lincolninks.com





   Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 18:10:56 -0700

   From: Dan Culbertson <
danculb@...>
Subject: Re: Spectratone Quadtone inks


Yep -they are dye.  Only quad inks I've tried 
that really gets you close to
a silver-glossy look.  If there is any flaw it is 
the plethora of options in
ink selection - good for folks like me, 
problematic perhaps for those who
are overwhelmed with options.  I have used 
the tri-tone RGB method on the
1200 and my own special 
spectrophotometer-based RGB softproof 
method on the
3000 (posted at the Lincoln Inks and Papers 
website).  Very high Dmax (2.2
plus) with both printers and very subtle 
control of the range with the
softproof method and CMYK methods.  All 
in all if these inks hold up in the
longevity tests (and I really think they  will) 
and if a good gelatin or
polymer coated smooth matte paper is found 
to round out the paper options I
doubt I will ever go back to any of the 
pigment inksets.  Presuming of
course that I ever get over my habit of 
perpetual experimentation for the
sake of experimentation.

Campfiredan 
(aka Dan Culbertson)

> Dump em into the Florida sun down there
> and let us know how they fare compared to
> anything.
> 
> 
> Allen Maertz

Hmmm - don't have a south window but I could do the "throw 'em into the back
of the Jeep and let 'em cook in the Florida sun"  test.  The Weber Valentine
Photo Satin sounds interesting.  I'll check it out.

Dan Culbertson