Digital BW, The Print

Who has tried sizing uncoated papers (before printing)?

As a gumprinter I am sizing all my papers (mainly watercolour and
rives BFK) with (formalin) hardened gelatin.
I tried these papers with Epson OEM dyes in a 1200 with no result.
The dyes float off on top of the hardened gelatin.

Will this be different with pigment based inks (I ordered a CIS and
MIS quad black inks this week)?

After receiving the CIS and inks I will experiment with different 
coatings -  unhardened gelatin, hardened gelatin, starch, PVA etc.

Who knows what coating is used by archival inkjet paper manufacturers 
(hahnemuhle, somerset etc.)? 

thanks,

Kees Brandenburg

Hi,

Take a look at lotusviewcamera.com (I think). They not only sell 
paper but the coating fluid to apply to fine art papers,

Regards,

DH

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Kees Brandenburg" 
<info@c...> wrote:
> Who has tried sizing uncoated papers (before printing)?

I've tried unhardened gelatin and starch, didn't work too well with 
dyes. Since pigs seem less tolerant of surface I suspect it won't work 
too well. Dan had success with egg white and milanta...
I'm not kidding.
Do a search in the epson/leben list for milanta and I'll bet you'll 
find it.
T

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., davidhatton@t... wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Take a look at lotusviewcamera.com (I think). They not only sell 
> paper but the coating fluid to apply to fine art papers,
> 
> Regards,
> 
> DH

URL:  http://www.lotusviewcamera.at/

-mh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., mh@t... wrote:
> URL:  http://www.lotusviewcamera.at/

This is liquid photo emulsion, similar to LiquidLight, for coating 
paper for DARKROOM work; not for inkjet printing. I agree with 
Diana; why try to reinvent the wheel?

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Mark Tucker" <mark@m...> 
wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., mh@t... wrote:
> > URL:  http://www.lotusviewcamera.at/
> 
> This is liquid photo emulsion, similar to LiquidLight, for coating 
> paper for DARKROOM work; not for inkjet printing. I agree with 
> Diana; why try to reinvent the wheel?


You didn't look in the right place.

I could see this as being something I would like to try, but the cost 
in money and time would be great. Their 500ml bottle is about $38 USD, 
is that correct?

As far as coatings and archival-ness, what is usually the ingredient 
that causes the most concern? and what is it in them that reacts to ink 
in sometimes ill ways?

-mh