Digital BW, The Print

   From: tflash <tflash@...>
Subject: Buying Archival Matte

Well after waiting two weeks for my 
shipment of letter size Epson Archival
Matte paper, I discovered today that the place 
I ordered it from (Systems
Unlimited) has gone under. They didn't 
charge me at least.

Let's see if I can make this work to my 
advantage.

Does anybody know where to obtain letter 
size EAM that does not have the
watermark logo and arrows on the back?

Todd

> Todd,
> 
> You may want to reconsider buying epson
> Archival Matt.  I used my ph pen from light
> impressions on it to find that the surface
> coating is acid free and the back side base is
> not.  
> 
> "Archival" really means that you can stick
> something into a drawer and when you come
> back many years later, it's the same.   In
> printmaking/drawing etc. just using acid free
> materials gives it the "archival" name.
> 
> Archival is a separate issue from Longevity
> or Lightfastness but is used interchangeably
> in the "venacular".
> 
> Moral of the story is to do your own tests
> and pass the info on in an excellent forum
> like this.  
> 
> For an ultimate solution in archival, the
> Crane Museo would be the standard in my
> book.
> 
> Allen Maertz
> lincolninks.com
> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 01:08:45 -0400
> From: tflash <tflash@...>
> Subject: Buying Archival Matte
> 
> Well after waiting two weeks for my
> shipment of letter size Epson Archival
> Matte paper, I discovered today that the place
> I ordered it from (Systems
> Unlimited) has gone under. They didn't
> charge me at least.
> 
> Let's see if I can make this work to my
> advantage.
> 
> Does anybody know where to obtain letter
> size EAM that does not have the
> watermark logo and arrows on the back?
> 
> Todd

   From: mwesley250@...
Subject: Re: Buying Archival Matt

Allen,

You just cut through to the quick of a long 
running discussion that 
started up on the Piezo list. Apparently many 
people, myself 
included, really like the EAM with the Piezo 
ink set. Smooth, bright 
white, stiff, nice warm/neutral tone, low 
cost.

Steadman Uhlich was the first to point out 
the acid content problem. 
In addition, a connection has been made 
between EAM and a green shift 
with Piezo (not convinced about the paper 
connection myself). But the 
end result was that a great big group of 
people went out looking for 
a paper to replace EAM.

Museo seems to be one of the front-runners 
but the new Hahnemule 
paper sounds like a real winner for EAM 
users.

Also thanks for pointing out the difference 
between an archival paper 
and an archival image. They are tossed about 
freely and while they 
are interconnected over the long haul, they 
are not the same thing. 

Martin

> I've seen window tests that show
> Generations Enhanced to prematurely fade
> on Epson Archival Matt.  I assume it's the
> acid base so I don't even think of using it
> except for comps.
>
> On "archival image", I've never actually seen
> any kind of agreement or rating of what that
> animal might be and where the dividing line
> would lay.
>
> Allen Maertz
> lincolninks.com
>
> Message: 23
>    Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 17:35:00 -0000
>    From: mwesley250@...
> Subject: Re: Buying Archival Matt
>
> Allen,
>
> You just cut through to the quick of a long
> running discussion that
> started up on the Piezo list. Apparently many
> people, myself
> included, really like the EAM with the Piezo
> ink set. Smooth, bright
> white, stiff, nice warm/neutral tone, low
> cost.
>
> Steadman Uhlich was the first to point out
> the acid content problem.
> In addition, a connection has been made
> between EAM and a green shift
> with Piezo (not convinced about the paper
> connection myself). But the
> end result was that a great big group of
> people went out looking for
> a paper to replace EAM.
>
> Museo seems to be one of the front-runners
> but the new Hahnemule
> paper sounds like a real winner for EAM
> users.
>
> Also thanks for pointing out the difference
> between an archival paper
> and an archival image. They are tossed about
> freely and while they
> are interconnected over the long haul, they
> are not the same thing.
>
> Martin
>
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