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Bottom Filling Cartridge Question

Bottom Filling Cartridge Question

2003-07-01 by Tom Husband

I just ordered the equipment to refill cartridges with Ultra Tone 
ink.  My question concerns cartridges without the poppet vales (the 
ones I bought).  Once you bottom fill one chamber and move to the 
next one how do keep the ink from dripping out?  Do you put pieces of 
electrical tape over the vent hole?  Are empty cartridges with poppet 
valves available anywhere?

Thanks,

Tom Husband

RE: [Digital BW] Bottom Filling Cartridge Question

2003-07-01 by Paul Roark

Tom,

>Once you bottom fill one chamber and move to the
>next one how do keep the ink from dripping out?  Do you put pieces of
>electrical tape over the vent hole?

I don't bother with rivets or taping each outlet.  They don't drip
significantly.  I put a tape over the entire outlet area once the chambers
are all full.

The main things I've found is to be sure you are at a sink that your wife
won't kill you when you stain it with ink.  Also, until you get the hang of
it, wear an apron or old clothes.

Fill the carts in an evening and let them sit on the printer over night for
the air to float up away from the printer intakes.

>Are empty cartridges with poppet valves available anywhere?

Not that I'm aware of.

Good luck.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

Re: [Digital BW] Bottom Filling Cartridge Question

2003-07-01 by Tom Husband

> Fill the carts in an evening and let them sit on the printer over 
night for
> the air to float up away from the printer intakes.
> 
> >Are empty cartridges with poppet valves available anywhere?
> 
> Not that I'm aware of.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com

Thanks Paul.  Do you mean install the carts in the printer and let 
them sit?

Tom

Ultra-Tone Inkset

2003-07-09 by haverbach

Two questions regarding the MIS Ultra-Tone inkset and Paul's curves:
 

1. Are the MIS Ultra-Tones a pure black-gray inkset where the intent 
is a truly neutral print? Or are the Ultra-Tones a variable-tone 
inkset, as was the "VM" product, where varying the printer-driver 
sliders could change the output from very warm to a coolish blue?

2. A year or two ago, when the MIS Variable Mix/Variable Tone inkset 
was the product most discussed, there were several reports of 
posterization caused by either (a) a bug in Photoshop 7 improperly 
converting grayscale to RGB (so some printed using PS 6), or (b) a 
problem in using the recommended sRGB workingspace, apparently 
resolved by using Adobe RGB (1998) notwithstanding Paul's 
recommendation that for purposes of his curves, sRGB was the correct 
workingspace.

What is the status of this grayscale-to-RGB conversion problem? I 
note that Paul's instruction for his NEW Ultra-Tone curves is to 
utilize the Adobe RGB (1998) RGB workingspace, not sRGB as with the 
old VM product.

Thanks for any responses.

Howard A.

RE: [Digital BW] Ultra-Tone Inkset - posterization?

2003-07-09 by Tim Atherton

> 2. A year or two ago, when the MIS Variable Mix/Variable Tone inkset
> was the product most discussed, there were several reports of
> posterization caused by either (a) a bug in Photoshop 7 improperly
> converting grayscale to RGB (so some printed using PS 6), or (b) a
> problem in using the recommended sRGB workingspace, apparently
> resolved by using Adobe RGB (1998) notwithstanding Paul's
> recommendation that for purposes of his curves, sRGB was the correct
> workingspace.

That's the one reason I'm kinda hanging back - I got the posterization with
the old VM inkset on an 1160 and never did resolve it - I switched to the FS
inks instead.

I'd be interested to know if anyone who experienced the posterization in the
VM inks and switched to the Ultra-tone set has found it was either resolved
or carried over?

tim

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