Digital BW, The Print

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Martin Wesley 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:16 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Getting started


  Todd,

  Thanks for remembering to cover the people who want or need good 
  glossy output. A good decision matrix too.

  I changed the subject line to "Getting Started" since it really 
  should be broader than a Piezo vs. MIS decision. Need to work the 
  color ink sets into the decision path too.

  You and Steadman have laid out two recommendations. I would like to 
  get more people to do the same; combine them into one text file and 
  then post it in the files section. Then when the question gets asked 
  next we can just refer people to that file and say read this first 
  and then ask questions. Perhaps we can do this without debating the 
  merits of each person's recommendations but simply post them all and 
  let the reader make up their own mind?

  Martin


  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner <tflash@e...> 
  wrote:
  > on 10/1/01 12:34 AM, Martin Wesley wrote:
  > 
  > > As I said, I am uncertain at this point as to what to recommend to
  > > newcomers (the vast majority of them will be desktop users) 
  between
  > > Piezo and MIS solutions as a starting place.
  > 
  > I break it down along what can't you live with, and what can't you 
  live
  > without.
  > 
  > If you can't live without glossy papers and/or high dmax go 
  Spectratones.
  > 
  > If you can live with matte papers, Piezo color and cost, go Piezo 
  software
  > and inks, or Piezo software and FS inks (BTW, has anybody tried to 
  print
  > Tyler's Zees with the Piezo driver and FS inks?).
  > 
  > If you can't live with Piezo's color and/or cost try MIS VT.
  > 
  > If you can't live without deep hues, like sepia, or need to use one 
  printer
  > for color and BW go with MIS, or Generations, or Cone color 
  pigments.
  > 
  > I think clogging is likely printer, dirty carts, or location 
  (altitude,
  > humidity, temperature changes, etc.) dependent. Too many people 
  have good
  > results with all inks for it to be ink specific.
  > 
  > Todd


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> 
> > You use one of the five curves every time you print. They go from
> cold,
> > to cool, to neutral, to medium warm, to warm. You just load the
> curve
> > you wish to use before you print the picture and print.
> 
> > MIS also makes a full spectrum set of inks that are identical in
> tone to
> > the very warm, and very expensive piezo inks.
> >
>  If you use Paul Roark's curves your print quality will be identical
> to
> > the Piezo prints.
> >
> > Also, be sure you get a CIS system for the 4 ounce bottles of ink.
> You
> > don't want to be using the very expensive cartridges.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> 
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> > well on Legions Photo Matte Paper, and the Brightcube Eclipse Satine
> > paper, 2 of my favorite papers. Also works on Epson Archival Matte paper
> > and several others.
> 
> Would this be on your 1280, or your 1160? Would the same setting work
> equally well on both printers? What does it do to the rest of the tones?
> 
> Todd