Digital BW, The Print

> I'm curious about what the trade-offs are between using
> QuadToneRIP and OPM/IJC ?   Looks like Windows users are out of
> luck on either one, and for Mac users, QTR is OSX only and
> IJC is OS9 only.
> 
> But, except for that ? (Specififically, for 2200 users).
> 
> Looks like both are very flexible, and will be able to use
> any quad- or hex-tone inksets that become available for the 
> UltraChrome printers. Speaking of which, when will those
> actually become available (for those of us who don't want to mess
> with CIS or filling our own cartridges) ?
> 
> Thanks, John

> 
> > why exactly would you want to use a 2200 with 3rd party inks when 
> > you can get the same performance from a 1280 for a fraction of the 
> > price???
> 
> You can get the same performance from the 1280 *IF* you load it
> with 3rd-party inks.   And, I already own a 2200.  But, even if I
> were re-thinking the printer-buying decision, I would probably
> go with the 2200, because color is also important to me, and the
> 2200 is far better for color (at least if longevity is important
> to you).
> 
> John

On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 02:45  PM, Mark Hahn wrote:

> Now why exactly would you want to use a 2200 with 3rd party inks when
> you can get the same performance from a 1280 for a fraction of the
> price????
>
> mark
>
> ...
>> Looks like both are very flexible, and will be able to use
>> any quad- or hex-tone inksets that become available for the
>> UltraChrome printers. Speaking of which, when will those
>> actually become available (for those of us who don't want to mess
>> with CIS or filling our own cartridges) ?
> ...
>
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On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 12:07 PM, luisvcool wrote:

> Hi.  I am using OPM but I cannot find profile's for Epson's Velvet  
> Fine Art and
> Watercolor papers.  Can anyone tell me where to look?
>
> Thanks.
>
> By the by, does QTR work with profiles like OPM (would I have to hunt  
> for those too?)
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "johngeyles"  
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> wrote:
>>
>>> why exactly would you want to use a 2200 with 3rd party inks when
>>> you can get the same performance from a 1280 for a fraction of the
>>> price???
>>
>> You can get the same performance from the 1280 *IF* you load it
>> with 3rd-party inks.   And, I already own a 2200.  But, even if I
>> were re-thinking the printer-buying decision, I would probably
>> go with the 2200, because color is also important to me, and the
>> 2200 is far better for color (at least if longevity is important
>> to you).
>>
>> John
>
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> Performance (particularly printing speed), reliability, and ease of\ufffd 
>switching carts (no need for a dedicated inkset CIS) is much better\ufffd 
>with the 2200.\ufffd With one additional light gray ink the 2200 would most\ufffd 
>likely surpass the 1280 for B&W print quality as well.\ufffd I also don't\ufffd 
>particularly care to maintain and feed two printers and currently I'm\ufffd 
>quite pleased with the 2200 for both color and B&W.
>
>Carl
>On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 02:45\ufffd PM, Mark Hahn wrote:
>
>> Now why exactly would you want to use a 2200 with 3rd party inks when
>> you can get the same performance from a 1280 for a fraction of the
>> price????
>>
>> mark
>>
>> ...
>>> Looks like both are very flexible, and will be able to use
>>> any quad- or hex-tone inksets that become available for the
>>> UltraChrome printers. Speaking of which, when will those
>>> actually become available (for those of us who don't want to mess
>>> with CIS or filling our own cartridges) ?
>> ...
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On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 01:50 PM, Tim Atherton wrote:

> I remember a while back, someone saying that the Professional Glossy  
> Paper
> which is only available in 13x19 is the exact same paper as one that  
> only
> comes in rolls (I think only 24" and 38") which has a different name...
> anyone remember?
>
> On a different note, I recently got my 2200 and have been playing with  
> the
> greyscale balancer. I haven't even tried matte papers yet, but I  
> happened to
> have a box of letter sized Ilford Smooth Gloss. This seems to have  
> come out
> very nicely indeed.
>
> While it does seem to metamerise slightly (I don't have any florescent  
> light
> handy, so just going from daylight to tungsten) it remains neutral
> throughout the changes. Indeed, I carried a silver print of the same  
> image
> along side it, and the changes were no more objectionable than I could  
> see
> on that print.
>
> Also, it doesn't really "bronze" (and certainly much less than the  
> various
> Epson glossy and semi-gloss papers) it's more that it "silvers" - which
> again is much less objectionable. This is by far the closest to a  
> silver B&W
> print (albeit RC) I have got from any Epson printer, including many
> different formulations of MIS Quads...
>
> tim
>
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