Digital BW, The Print

Have come across a problem that I don't understand and does not
make 
any sense.
I have a CIS with MIS FSN inks with the Piezography BW software. I 
did not use the printer for about 3 weeks, when I tried to print the 
black nozzle was not firing. I did couple of cleaning cycles but 
then all the lights on the printer flashed. My printer is still 
under guarantee so I phoned Epson. They got me to reset the print to 
no avail. Under the guarantee they sent some one to fix it. I took 
the CIS off put the original cartages in then every thing worked OK 
(had a problem with paper feed so still got Epson to have a look).

Epson exchanged my printer with a new one. Have to say Epson back up 
is second to none this is not the first time I have dealt with them.

New printer worked OK put the CIS back on again the black nozzle is 
not working. I have took the CIS off put original cartages in and 
the blacks OK.

Every time I have taken CIS off I have put plugs in and nipped the 
tubes closed so no air has got into the system. There is no air in 
tubes, cartridges are full if I take plug out of cart the spike is 
coved in black ink so as far as I am aware the CIS is in perfect 
working order.

At this moment in time CIS is off the printer and original carts in 
and all is working well. Could any body suggest my next move? Is it 
worth putting the CIS back on doing some purges and cleaning cycle 
and leaving for an 8 hour stretch. 
Should I put a cleaning cart through before putting the CIS back on? 

Has any one ever had this sort of problem as I have said it makes no 
sense as all seems OK?

Kirk

Kirk,
The only thing(s) I can think of is the chip (assuming the 1160 is 
chipped, I am not familiar with that printer) on the Black cartridge 
is not working.  Check to see if it's simply dirty.  If it seems OK, 
you might want to consider taking the chip off you Black OEM cart, 
and putting it onto the CIS Black cart.  MIS has a help-me on their 
web site for changing chips.
If that doesn't work (or there IS no chip), try the MIS CFS 
troubleshooting section, and probably try the technique for removing 
residual foam using the bottom fill adapter, and drawing LOTS (I 
think they suggest 10 20cc syringes full, which is alot of ink) of 
ink through the cartridge, inspecting what goes into the syringe 
for "foam".  If you do have foam, I think they suggest you discard 
that ink, as you draw ink from your resevoir bottle, until there is 
no foam coming out of the bottom of the cartridge into the syringe. 
If you try this technique, make sure that there is always sufficient 
ink in your resevoir bottle so the tube is in liquid,,,if you run 
out of ink in the resevoir bottle, you'll start sucking air, which 
is bad.
Hope one of these work & solves your trouble.
Best of luck,
Kevin

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "foodfeak" 
<kirk.ali@l...> wrote:
> Have come across a problem that I don't understand and does not
> make 
> any sense.
> I have a CIS with MIS FSN inks with the Piezography BW software. I 
> did not use the printer for about 3 weeks, when I tried to print 
the 
> black nozzle was not firing. I did couple of cleaning cycles but 
> then all the lights on the printer flashed. My printer is still 
> under guarantee so I phoned Epson. They got me to reset the print 
to 
> no avail. Under the guarantee they sent some one to fix it. I took 
> the CIS off put the original cartages in then every thing worked 
OK 
> (had a problem with paper feed so still got Epson to have a look).
> 
> Epson exchanged my printer with a new one. Have to say Epson back 
up 
> is second to none this is not the first time I have dealt with 
them.
> 
> New printer worked OK put the CIS back on again the black nozzle 
is 
> not working. I have took the CIS off put original cartages in and 
> the blacks OK.
> 
> Every time I have taken CIS off I have put plugs in and nipped the 
> tubes closed so no air has got into the system. There is no air in 
> tubes, cartridges are full if I take plug out of cart the spike is 
> coved in black ink so as far as I am aware the CIS is in perfect 
> working order.
> 
> At this moment in time CIS is off the printer and original carts 
in 
> and all is working well. Could any body suggest my next move? Is 
it 
> worth putting the CIS back on doing some purges and cleaning cycle 
> and leaving for an 8 hour stretch. 
> Should I put a cleaning cart through before putting the CIS back 
on? 
> 
> Has any one ever had this sort of problem as I have said it makes 
no 

> sense as all seems OK?
> 
> Kirk

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "foodfeak" <
kirk.ali@l...> wrote:
> Have come across a problem that I don't understand and does not
> make 
> any sense.
> I have a CIS with MIS FSN inks with the Piezography BW software. I 
> did not use the printer for about 3 weeks, when I tried to print the 
> black nozzle was not firing. I did couple of cleaning cycles but 
> then all the lights on the printer flashed. My printer is still 
> under guarantee so I phoned Epson. They got me to reset the print to 
> no avail. Under the guarantee they sent some one to fix it. I took 
> the CIS off put the original cartages in then every thing worked OK 
> (had a problem with paper feed so still got Epson to have a look).
> 
> Epson exchanged my printer with a new one. Have to say Epson back up 
> is second to none this is not the first time I have dealt with them.
> 
> New printer worked OK put the CIS back on again the black nozzle is 
> not working. I have took the CIS off put original cartages in and 
> the blacks OK.
> 
> Every time I have taken CIS off I have put plugs in and nipped the 
> tubes closed so no air has got into the system. There is no air in 
> tubes, cartridges are full if I take plug out of cart the spike is 
> coved in black ink so as far as I am aware the CIS is in perfect 
> working order.
> 
> At this moment in time CIS is off the printer and original carts in 
> and all is working well. Could any body suggest my next move? Is it 
> worth putting the CIS back on doing some purges and cleaning cycle 
> and leaving for an 8 hour stretch. 
> Should I put a cleaning cart through before putting the CIS back on? 
> 
> Has any one ever had this sort of problem as I have said it makes no 
> sense as all seems OK?

> Kirk

Two possibilities come to mind.

1.  If you are using the old black ink, you may have sludge in the 
cartridge, and it cannot be cleared.  To check for sludge, empty the 
black-ink bottle into a temporary vessel and examine the original.  If 
there is any sludge at the bottom, your black cart must be replaced and 
eboni black substituted for the old black.  I had this problem with the 
original black.

2. You're already using eboni black?  The cart may not be "in perfect 
working order."  Check for foam and how to get rid of it at the MIS 
site.  I had this problem as well.

Harry Lockwood

Sludge city like pouring out treacle here goes some more money. Also 
the tube that was in the black ink went really strange, went dull in 
color. If you rubbed your finger down the side it was like ruubbing 
off glue. Well odd?

Here's reaching for my credit card.

Thanks for your help 

Kirk


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "hlockwood" 
<hlockwood@t...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "foodfeak" <
> kirk.ali@l...> wrote:
> > Have come across a problem that I don't understand and does not
> > make 
> > any sense.
> > I have a CIS with MIS FSN inks with the Piezography BW software. 
I 
> > did not use the printer for about 3 weeks, when I tried to print 
the 
> > black nozzle was not firing. I did couple of cleaning cycles but 
> > then all the lights on the printer flashed. My printer is still 
> > under guarantee so I phoned Epson. They got me to reset the 
print to 
> > no avail. Under the guarantee they sent some one to fix it. I 
took 
> > the CIS off put the original cartages in then every thing worked 
OK 
> > (had a problem with paper feed so still got Epson to have a 
look).
> > 
> > Epson exchanged my printer with a new one. Have to say Epson 
back up 
> > is second to none this is not the first time I have dealt with 
them.
> > 
> > New printer worked OK put the CIS back on again the black nozzle 
is 
> > not working. I have took the CIS off put original cartages in 
and 
> > the blacks OK.
> > 
> > Every time I have taken CIS off I have put plugs in and nipped 
the 
> > tubes closed so no air has got into the system. There is no air 
in 
> > tubes, cartridges are full if I take plug out of cart the spike 
is 
> > coved in black ink so as far as I am aware the CIS is in perfect 
> > working order.
> > 
> > At this moment in time CIS is off the printer and original carts 
in 
> > and all is working well. Could any body suggest my next move? Is 
it 
> > worth putting the CIS back on doing some purges and cleaning 
cycle 
> > and leaving for an 8 hour stretch. 
> > Should I put a cleaning cart through before putting the CIS back 
on? 
> > 
> > Has any one ever had this sort of problem as I have said it 
makes no 
> > sense as all seems OK?
> 
> > Kirk
> 
> Two possibilities come to mind.
> 
> 1.  If you are using the old black ink, you may have sludge in the 
> cartridge, and it cannot be cleared.  To check for sludge, empty 
the 
> black-ink bottle into a temporary vessel and examine the 
original.  If 
> there is any sludge at the bottom, your black cart must be 
replaced and 
> eboni black substituted for the old black.  I had this problem 
with the 
> original black.
> 
> 2. You're already using eboni black?  The cart may not be "in 
perfect 
> working order."  Check for foam and how to get rid of it at the 
MIS 

> site.  I had this problem as well.
> 
> Harry Lockwood

You can easily do the same thing yourself, but still a very useful
product:

http://www.inksupply.com/html/2200wh.html


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Daniel Staver
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