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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Ultra Tones & Dedicated B&W vs ImagePrint & 7-Color

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Ultra Tones & Dedicated B&W vs ImagePrint & 7-Color

2003-10-23 by Alan.Huntley@cox.net

Mike,

If you're interested in BO (Black Only) printing, you should read the info on Clayton's site at:

www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

I used his techniques for awhile on my Epson 1160 with the original MIS VM black, and the results were not bad. Actually, it's a nice way to get started in B&W digital printer, however, I would not recommend this workflow for the Epson 2200.

Alan Huntley
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> From: "Mike Botelho" <mfractl@...>
> Date: 2003/10/23 Thu PM 02:03:01 EDT
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Ultra Tones & Dedicated B&W vs ImagePrint & 7-Color
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> I'd like to thank everyone for all the advice.  At first, I started 
> to reply to each and every response, but I've started to realize that 
> I will simply be repeating myself over and over if I reply to 
> everyone that's offered their vote on this subject.  Yet, the 
> response here is so much more helpful than I've experienced 
> elsewhere, I definitely wanted to acknowledge it.  So thanks again to 
> all.
> 
> Also, one of the posts I just read reminded me of a question I'd 
> thought of last evening...
> 
> Since the use of colored inks seems to be a source of problems when 
> printing B&W with the Ultrachromes, why not just use the Light Black 
> to provide the lighter tonalities instead?  I know that 'black only' 
> printing results in noticable dots that some find objectionable and 
> that the use of colored inks eliminates this, but wouldn't the use of 
> the Light Black ink eliminate this also?  In fact, isn't that why the 
> Ultrachrome printers have a Light Black cartridge?  So, I'm 
> wondering, am I missing something here?  Does the inclusion of 
> colored ink somehow produce smoother gradations than simply using the 
> lighter tones produced by the Light Black ink?
> 
> Mike
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Ultra Tones & Dedicated B&W vs ImagePrint & 7-Color

2003-10-31 by Ernst Dinkla

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> it does, i'm not exactly sure what james is referring
> to. the 4000 does come in a pro proofing model which
> prints only cmyk to simulate a press run so maybe
> that's what he's thinkin'. if the 4000 does in fact
> print better b&w, then it does it with drivers and not
> ink. that is it incorporates some sort of RIP-esque
> feature, like Imageprint, QTR or OPM, to improve b&w
> performance.

In matte printing it could use the Photo Black as an extra ink,
so KKkcm and then an ImagePrint, QTR approach for the driver.
Today a friend called who ordered the 4000 this week and was
promised delivery in December. It would be a miracle if that
became true but if it is the first thing I will do is check the
matte printing. There is enough density difference on matte
papers between Photo Black and Matte Black to use it in my
opinion. So that could mean a better B&W quality.


Ernst

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