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MIS VM Sepia and QTR

MIS VM Sepia and QTR

2003-10-29 by Roger L Sopher

Has anyone had any experience using the MIS variable-sepia inkset with QTR?
I have been well satisfied using MIS FSN in a CIS for some time but I now
have a number of images that would benefit (I hope) by being printed warmer.
I know Paul R's curves will work but I rather am taken by the idea of being
able to blend in just a bit or a lot of warm tones which QTR should do
easily. Two questions, I guess, With the toner turned off how would a print
compare to MIS FSN? and second with the full sepia setting just how warm
will it get? 

I suppose the best answer is to let some of the moths out of my wallet and
buy a set but being inherently cheap Would like to know others experience
before I splurge.

thanks

Roger

 

Roger L Sopher
rlsopher@...
http:\\deCorrales.com



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Re: MIS VM Sepia and QTR

2003-10-29 by Roy Harrington

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roger L Sopher" 
<rlsopher@c...> wrote:
> Has anyone had any experience using the MIS variable-sepia inkset with QTR?
> I have been well satisfied using MIS FSN in a CIS for some time but I now
> have a number of images that would benefit (I hope) by being printed warmer.
> I know Paul R's curves will work but I rather am taken by the idea of being
> able to blend in just a bit or a lot of warm tones which QTR should do
> easily. Two questions, I guess, With the toner turned off how would a print
> compare to MIS FSN? and second with the full sepia setting just how warm
> will it get? 
> 
> I suppose the best answer is to let some of the moths out of my wallet and
> buy a set but being inherently cheap Would like to know others experience
> before I splurge.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Roger
> 
>  
> 
> Roger L Sopher
> rlsopher@d...
> http:\\deCorrales.com
> 

Hi Roger,

VM-Sepia has been my major inkset for quite a while.  In my 1160 I'm
using the off-the-shelf set; I've been customizing the set in my 7500
to fine tune the exact color/tone that I would like.

I haven't used FS-N but my understanding is that VM-Sepia grays are
identical color to the FS-N,  so with no toner you would get the same
result as using the FS-N inks.  The sepia toner is a very warm color so
it's possible to go quite warm if that's what you like.  With QTR you can
go quite a bit more in that direction than Paul Roark's curves.

My personal goal has been to introduce a small amount of the sepia to
neutralize the excessive cold tone (IMO) of the grays.  To my eyes, the
path from cold grays to warm sepia passes slightly to the greenish side
so I've customized my sepia toner by adding a lot of magenta ink.  In
the neutral range I really like the new color, but the strong sepia  may
be a bit magenta.

Roy

RE: [Digital BW] Re: MIS VM Sepia and QTR

2003-10-29 by Roger L Sopher

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  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: MIS VM Sepia and QTR


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  > Roger L Sopher
  > rlsopher@d...
  > http:\\deCorrales.com
  >

  Hi Roger,

  VM-Sepia has been my major inkset for quite a while.  In my 1160 I'm
  using the off-the-shelf set; I've been customizing the set in my 7500
  to fine tune the exact color/tone that I would like.

  I haven't used FS-N but my understanding is that VM-Sepia grays are
  identical color to the FS-N,  so with no toner you would get the same
  result as using the FS-N inks.  The sepia toner is a very warm color so
  it's possible to go quite warm if that's what you like.  With QTR you can
  go quite a bit more in that direction than Paul Roark's curves.

  My personal goal has been to introduce a small amount of the sepia to
  neutralize the excessive cold tone (IMO) of the grays.  To my eyes, the
  path from cold grays to warm sepia passes slightly to the greenish side
  so I've customized my sepia toner by adding a lot of magenta ink.  In
  the neutral range I really like the new color, but the strong sepia  may
  be a bit magenta.

  Roy


   Thanks Roy, that is very helpful. Which magenta do you use for the
tweaking?

  Roger

  Roger L Sopher
  rlsopher@...
  http:\\deCorrales.com




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