Digital BW, The Print

Carl (or other MIS UltraTone 2200 users):

I'm confused about UT ink positions in my 2200.

I'm sitting here looking at a set of 2200 UltraTone carts.
The readme that you bundled in with your 2200 QTR profiles
(thanks for making these) says the ink positions you 
used are:

K - UT Photo K (not used for these profiles)
LK - UT Eboni Matte Black
C - UT Dark Gray (75% K)
LC - UT Medium Gray (50% K)
M - UT Blue Toner
LM - UT Sepia Toner
Y - UT Light Gray (25% K)

The 2200 UT carts from MIS however are simply labeled by their
color position, not their content. For example, the cart for the 
light black position says "lt. black" and not "eboni". Likewise, 
the yellow cart says "UltraTone Yellow" not "25% K". And so
on.

Before I load these suckers, I want to confirm that your profiles
and these carts correspond. Was the list you included in your 
readme intended to simply confirm the standard MIS cart 
positions? Does your Lt. Black cart actually have "Eboni" 
printed on it? 

Reason why I'm asking is I've been in contact with MIS twice
about this, once when I ordered, and then yesterday when I told 
them that I didn't see anything labeled "eboni", when they said, 
"oh that's wrong, you shouldn't have photo black, we'll ship 
you a replacement." 

But now that I look at your readme again, it seems okay that 
I have photo black, as long as the cart labeled "lt. black" 
in fact has eboni in it.

Sorry for such basic questions, just trying to sort this out,
and I don't want to hassle them any more without a little more
research. 

Thanks,
David Wroblewski

On Thursday, November 13, 2003, at 10:01  AM, David Wroblewski wrote:

> Carl (or other MIS UltraTone 2200 users):
>
> I'm confused about UT ink positions in my 2200.
>
> I'm sitting here looking at a set of 2200 UltraTone carts.
> The readme that you bundled in with your 2200 QTR profiles
> (thanks for making these) says the ink positions you
> used are:
>
> K - UT Photo K (not used for these profiles)
> LK - UT Eboni Matte Black
> C - UT Dark Gray (75% K)
> LC - UT Medium Gray (50% K)
> M - UT Blue Toner
> LM - UT Sepia Toner
> Y - UT Light Gray (25% K)
>
> The 2200 UT carts from MIS however are simply labeled by their
> color position, not their content.
Correct.  My list above just indicates what the carts contain (or  
should contain).  MIS simple labels the carts by position and not  
contents.
>  For example, the cart for the
> light black position says "lt. black" and not "eboni". Likewise,
> the yellow cart says "UltraTone Yellow" not "25% K". And so
> on.
>
> Before I load these suckers, I want to confirm that your profiles
> and these carts correspond. Was the list you included in your
> readme intended to simply confirm the standard MIS cart
> positions?
Yes.
>  Does your Lt. Black cart actually have "Eboni"
> printed on it?
No.
>
>
> Reason why I'm asking is I've been in contact with MIS twice
> about this, once when I ordered, and then yesterday when I told
> them that I didn't see anything labeled "eboni", when they said,
> "oh that's wrong, you shouldn't have photo black, we'll ship
> you a replacement."
>
> But now that I look at your readme again, it seems okay that
> I have photo black, as long as the cart labeled "lt. black"
> in fact has eboni in it.
It should have, even though it is not labelled with the contents.

>
> Sorry for such basic questions, just trying to sort this out,
> and I don't want to hassle them any more without a little more
> research.
>
> Thanks,
> David Wroblewski
>
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Okay I loaded the MIS Ultratone carts in my 2200 as 
labelled, and of course they do correspond to the 
inks/position you stated. I needn't have fretted.

Now I just need to get a good nozzle check (5 or 6 
cleanings but I'm not there yet) and I'm off and 
running.

Thanks, Carl.

-david

David,

> Okay I loaded the MIS Ultratone carts in my 2200 as
> labelled, and of course they do correspond to the
> inks/position you stated. I needn't have fretted.
> 
> Now I just need to get a good nozzle check (5 or 6
> cleanings but I'm not there yet) and I'm off and
> running.

Just did the same last week. Let it sit overnight and then clean the heads
two times with no nozzle check between. Then do a nozzle test. Worked fine
for mine. Seems like the ink needs to settle a bit.

Getting some great result with some tweaked OPM/IJC profiles on EEM.

Jon

Would you submit a comprehensive report in a week or so? I'm thinking 
about trying Ultratones in my 2220 but I'm apprehensive about clogs, 
switching back to OEM inks, etc.
On Nov 13, 2003, at 1:38 PM, David Wroblewski wrote:

> Okay I loaded the MIS Ultratone carts in my 2200 as
> labelled, and of course they do correspond to the
> inks/position you stated. I needn't have fretted.
>
> Now I just need to get a good nozzle check (5 or 6
> cleanings but I'm not there yet) and I'm off and
> running.
>
> Thanks, Carl.
>
> -david
>
>
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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, John Merrill 
Yes, I'll definitely provide a report once I've completed
the changeover and am making prints.
-david

<jmerrill@s...> wrote:
> Would you submit a comprehensive report in a week or so? I'm 
thinking 
> about trying Ultratones in my 2220 but I'm apprehensive about 
clogs, 
> switching back to OEM inks, etc.
> On Nov 13, 2003, at 1:38 PM, David Wroblewski wrote:
> 
> > Okay I loaded the MIS Ultratone carts in my 2200 as
> > labelled, and of course they do correspond to the
> > inks/position you stated. I needn't have fretted.
> >
> > Now I just need to get a good nozzle check (5 or 6
> > cleanings but I'm not there yet) and I'm off and
> > running.
> >
> > Thanks, Carl.
> >
> > -david
> >
> >
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