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Septone Greyscale?

Septone Greyscale?

2003-12-02 by Richard Smallfield

Hi,
I have a friend who is unable to calibrate his Epson 2000 printer to print with accurate colour and was wondering about the possibility of converting it to greyscale inks. If it could be done, the results would be amazing.

But I haven't found anything at MIS about a septone greyscale inkset for such printers. (Although the various makes of CIS support that printer - I presume they are colour inks in the other five positions.) 

Has any company come with a septone greycsale set for this printer??

thanks,
Richard
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RE: [Digital BW] Septone Greyscale?

2003-12-02 by Paul Roark

Richard,

>... Epson 2000 printer ... wondering about the possibility of 
>converting it to greyscale inks. 

Does the 2000 use a variable-dot technology?  How does it compare to the
1280-class machines in terms of dot size, etc.?

Are there empty carts that are available for it? 

>But I haven't found anything at MIS about a septone greyscale inkset for
>such printers. (Although the various makes of CIS support that printer ...

I made some curves for the 2000P, PC, and MIS VM inks.  I'm not sure how
many use them.

If the machine has as good a dot size, etc. as the 1280, I would be curious
how the new UT-2 inkset would work.  It depends on the built-in Epson driver
cross-overs, so the curves needed to control the inkset (in case the sliders
don't work on that printer) are much easier to deal with -- no radical
cross-overs to cause posterization, etc. 

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

RE: [Digital BW] Septone Greyscale?

2003-12-02 by Martin Wesley

* -----Original Message-----
* From: Richard Smallfield [mailto:r.smallfield@...] 
* Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:02 AM
* To: Digital BW Print
* Subject: [Digital BW] Septone Greyscale?
* 
* 
* Hi,
* I have a friend who is unable to calibrate his Epson 2000 
* printer to print with accurate colour and was wondering about 
* the possibility of converting it to greyscale inks. If it 
* could be done, the results would be amazing.
* 
* But I haven't found anything at MIS about a septone greyscale 
* inkset for such printers. (Although the various makes of CIS 
* support that printer - I presume they are colour inks in the 
* other five positions.) 
* 
* Has any company come with a septone greycsale set for this printer??
* 
Richard,

If you mean the Epson 2200 which has 7-ink positions the answer is yes. The
inks and software are called Septone. They are available from
www.bwguys.com. They use a single black and dual sets of grayscale inks of
different hues (one cool and one warm) and allow you to blend them in your
print in a manner not possible with any other system. I have seen samples
from a 2200 and a 7600. Very impressive. About the best B&W inkjet prints I
have seen.

If you do mean the Epson 2000P then the answer is no since it is a six ink
printer.

Martin Wesley
www.carolyn.cc/Guests/MartinWesley/pages/MW_01.html
www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html

RE: [Digital BW] Septone Greyscale?

2003-12-02 by Paul D. DeRocco

> From: Martin Wesley [mailto:mwesley250@...]
>
> If you mean the Epson 2200 which has 7-ink positions the answer
> is yes. The
> inks and software are called Septone. They are available from
> www.bwguys.com. They use a single black and dual sets of grayscale inks of
> different hues (one cool and one warm) and allow you to blend them in your
> print in a manner not possible with any other system. I have seen samples
> from a 2200 and a 7600. Very impressive. About the best B&W
> inkjet prints I
> have seen.
>
> If you do mean the Epson 2000P then the answer is no since it is a six ink
> printer.

Actually, I think he probably meant hextone.

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RE: [Digital BW] Septone Greyscale?

2003-12-02 by Richard Smallfield

At 08:55 AM Wednesday 12/3/03, you wrote:
>Actually, I think he probably meant hextone.

No, I meant septone - but didn't know the details of the Epson 2000(p?) printer. I assumed it was like the 2100/2200.

I'll have to ask my friend for more details.

thanks,
Richard 
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RE: [Digital BW] Septone Greyscale?

2003-12-02 by Paul D. DeRocco

> From: Richard Smallfield [mailto:r.smallfield@...]
>
> No, I meant septone - but didn't know the details of the Epson
> 2000(p?) printer. I assumed it was like the 2100/2200.
>
> I'll have to ask my friend for more details.

I thought you may have meant hextone because you referred to the "other five
colors" in your message. The 2000P is indeed a six-color printer with one
black cart and one five-color cart, just like the 1280.

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Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
Paul                mailto:pderocco@...

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