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2003-12-10 by martinshakeshaft
I am a bit confused. I asked a question about what the difference was between the 1270/1280/1290/1290s was and was told that for UT's the best bet is a 1270/1280 BUT these printers are no longer available in the UK. I have tried ebay but nothing doing...........so the big question is what options are available to someone wanting to go the MIS UT route if they do not work with any current printers? Help!!!! Martin
2003-12-10 by Paul Roark
The 1290 is, I'm told, a 1280 with a different driver. I think the 1280 driver will work with it (at least for PCs). Then the 1280 UT curves should work. I though another forum member had mentioned that he was going to try this. Paul www.PaulRoark.com _____________________________
-----Original Message----- From: martinshakeshaft [mailto:ms.photolists@...] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 1:12 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] So what to buy for UT UT2's I am a bit confused. I asked a question about what the difference was between the 1270/1280/1290/1290s was and was told that for UT's the best bet is a 1270/1280 BUT these printers are no longer available in the UK. I have tried ebay but nothing doing...........so the big question is what options are available to someone wanting to go the MIS UT route if they do not work with any current printers? Help!!!! Martin Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2003-12-11 by scrber
Yep, that was me. I have the 1280 driver and 2 1290 printers (currently both running on the 1290 driver) so I have the luxury of comparing workflows. However, if I'm going to do this, I will try it first on the UT2s. I still have about 1/4 bottle of UTs left. Any idea when the UT2s & workflow will become available? Kind regards Steve --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > The 1290 is, I'm told, a 1280 with a different driver. I think the 1280 > driver will work with it (at least for PCs). Then the 1280 UT curves should > work. > > I though another forum member had mentioned that he was going to try this. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > _____________________________ > > -----Original Message----- > From: martinshakeshaft [mailto:ms.photolists@v...] > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 1:12 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] So what to buy for UT UT2's > > I am a bit confused. I asked a question about what the difference > was between the 1270/1280/1290/1290s was and was told that for UT's > the best bet is a 1270/1280 BUT these printers are no longer > available in the UK. I have tried ebay but nothing > doing...........so the big question is what options are available to
> someone wanting to go the MIS UT route if they do not work with any > current printers? > > Help!!!! > > Martin
2003-12-11 by Paul Roark
Steve, >...Any idea when the UT2s & workflow will become available? No. I'm pushing MIS as best I can. Calls from potential customers asking for it might also help. I'm giving a short talk 12/20 to a genealogy society where I intend to recommend the C82 or 1280 with UT-2 for their work. So, I've told MIS they might miss some business if the inks aren't at least in bulk by then. If you have the 1280 driver and UT running in a 1290, why not try that combo to see if it works well? Paul www.PaulRoark.com ______________________________________________ --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > The 1290 is, I'm told, a 1280 with a different driver. I think the 1280 > driver will work with it (at least for PCs). Then the 1280 UT curves should > work. > > I though another forum member had mentioned that he was going to try this. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > _____________________________ > > -----Original Message----- > From: martinshakeshaft [mailto:ms.photolists@v...] > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 1:12 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] So what to buy for UT UT2's > > I am a bit confused. I asked a question about what the difference > was between the 1270/1280/1290/1290s was and was told that for UT's > the best bet is a 1270/1280 BUT these printers are no longer > available in the UK. I have tried ebay but nothing > doing...........so the big question is what options are available to > someone wanting to go the MIS UT route if they do not work with any > current printers? > > Help!!!! > > Martin Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2003-12-11 by Mike Sommers
Paul, As anxious as I am to get started with a dedicated B&W 1280 and your ink/workflow process, what I've read thus far leads me to believe that UT2's are not only easier to use than the original UT, but better in terms of Dmax, longevity and performance on a wider variety of papers. I'd rather not spend $56 on the original UT's for these reasons... (maybe you should have kept a lid on the UT-2 project until they were ready for sale!) Thanks always, though. It's great having people like you in the world. Mike Paul Roark wrote: > Steve, > > >...Any idea when the UT2s & workflow will become available? > > No. I'm pushing MIS as best I can. Calls from potential customers asking > for it might also help. I'm giving a short talk 12/20 to a genealogy > society where I intend to recommend the C82 or 1280 with UT-2 for their > work. So, I've told MIS they might miss some business if the inks > aren't at > least in bulk by then. > > If you have the 1280 driver and UT running in a 1290, why not try that > combo > to see if it works well? > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > ______________________________________________ > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > The 1290 is, I'm told, a 1280 with a different driver. I think the > 1280 > > driver will work with it (at least for PCs). Then the 1280 UT > curves should > > work. > > > > I though another forum member had mentioned that he was going to > try this. > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com > > _____________________________ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: martinshakeshaft [mailto:ms.photolists@v...] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 1:12 PM > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Digital BW] So what to buy for UT UT2's > > > > I am a bit confused. I asked a question about what the difference > > was between the 1270/1280/1290/1290s was and was told that for UT's > > the best bet is a 1270/1280 BUT these printers are no longer > > available in the UK. I have tried ebay but nothing > > doing...........so the big question is what options are available > to > > someone wanting to go the MIS UT route if they do not work with any > > current printers? > > > > Help!!!! > > > > Martin > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. 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2003-12-12 by john eckenrode
mike i think the original UT is more or less the same as UT-2 with a different mix. i don't think UT-2 is any more light stable, its just a different formulation for a different printing method. now UTs compared to VMs and so forth, you are right-the VM and Full Spectrum etc. are not as light stable as UTs. john e --- Mike Sommers <mike@...> wrote: > Paul, > > As anxious as I am to get started with a dedicated > B&W 1280 and your > ink/workflow process, what I've read thus far leads > me to believe that > UT2's are not only easier to use than the original > UT, but better in > terms of Dmax, longevity and performance on a wider > variety of papers. > > I'd rather not spend $56 on the original UT's for > these reasons... > > (maybe you should have kept a lid on the UT-2 > project until they were > ready for sale!) > > Thanks always, though. It's great having people like > you in the world. > > Mike > > Paul Roark wrote: > > > Steve, > > > > >...Any idea when the UT2s & workflow will become > available? > > > > No. I'm pushing MIS as best I can. Calls from > potential customers asking > > for it might also help. I'm giving a short talk > 12/20 to a genealogy > > society where I intend to recommend the C82 or > 1280 with UT-2 for their > > work. So, I've told MIS they might miss some > business if the inks > > aren't at > > least in bulk by then. > > > > If you have the 1280 driver and UT running in a > 1290, why not try that > > combo > > to see if it works well? > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com > > ______________________________________________ > > > > --- In > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul > Roark" > > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > > The 1290 is, I'm told, a 1280 with a different > driver. I think the > > 1280 > > > driver will work with it (at least for PCs). > Then the 1280 UT > > curves should > > > work. > > > > > > I though another forum member had mentioned that > he was going to > > try this. > > > > > > Paul > > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > _____________________________ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: martinshakeshaft > [mailto:ms.photolists@v...] > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 1:12 PM > > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [Digital BW] So what to buy for UT > UT2's > > > > > > I am a bit confused. I asked a question about > what the difference > > > was between the 1270/1280/1290/1290s was and was > told that for UT's > > > the best bet is a 1270/1280 BUT these printers > are no longer > > > available in the UK. I have tried ebay but > nothing > > > doing...........so the big question is what > options are available > > to > > > someone wanting to go the MIS UT route if they > do not work with any > > > current printers? > > > > > > Help!!!! > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the > Files, and other resources as > > they are often being updated. > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily > digest, or you wish to > > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership > preferences by visiting this same > > page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of > earlier messages to keep > > them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. 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