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Need price quote help fast

Need price quote help fast

2001-10-09 by sdmey4@aol.com

I client has asked for a volume price quote for 300 8x10's of two images. For 
a hotel project in Japan. I can only guess that they want cheap.
Rc prints
Silver Fiber from digital  negative
Piezo
Any ideas on how to price the 3 mediums above? I could do any one of them. I 
need to give them a quote by the AM. I have done deals like this with RC 
prints only at 12.00 each. I can do 300 RC 8x10 in about 4 hours. I rather do 
better and get more.
Anybody done any volume sales with Hotel type projects? Normally I don't 
offer 8x10's at all anymore.
Steven  Meyers
http://www.xray-art.com


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Re: [Digital BW] Need price quote help fast

2001-10-09 by Todd Flashner

Steve

If these are prints of your images I'd like to see you make more money than
that! $12 isn't much more than the price someone would pay for a custom 8x10
at a decent lab if it's one of their own negatives. You'd be practically
giving your IMAGE (your art/vision) away for the price of materials alone.
If it were up to me they'd be paying you $12/print for materials and
expenses, plus at least a couple grand for usage rights. They can't buy
pillow cases for the price of those prints, and you can imagine how many of
those they buy, and how fast they replace them. They owe you some towels and
an ashtray big time. ;-)

Todd
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> I client has asked for a volume price quote for 300 8x10's of two images. For
> a hotel project in Japan. I can only guess that they want cheap.
> Rc prints
> Silver Fiber from digital  negative
> Piezo
> Any ideas on how to price the 3 mediums above? I could do any one of them. I
> need to give them a quote by the AM. I have done deals like this with RC
> prints only at 12.00 each. I can do 300 RC 8x10 in about 4 hours. I rather do
> better and get more.
> Anybody done any volume sales with Hotel type projects? Normally I don't
> offer 8x10's at all anymore.
> Steven  Meyers
> http://www.xray-art.com

Re: [Digital BW] Need price quote help fast

2001-10-10 by Jerry Olson

Also try and find out what light they will be viewed under. 

Jerry




Todd Flashner wrote:
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> 
> Steve
> 
> If these are prints of your images I'd like to see you make more money than
> that! $12 isn't much more than the price someone would pay for a custom 8x10
> at a decent lab if it's one of their own negatives. You'd be practically
> giving your IMAGE (your art/vision) away for the price of materials alone.
> If it were up to me they'd be paying you $12/print for materials and
> expenses, plus at least a couple grand for usage rights. They can't buy
> pillow cases for the price of those prints, and you can imagine how many of
> those they buy, and how fast they replace them. They owe you some towels and
> an ashtray big time. ;-)
> 
> Todd
> 
> > I client has asked for a volume price quote for 300 8x10's of two images. For
> > a hotel project in Japan. I can only guess that they want cheap.
> > Rc prints
> > Silver Fiber from digital  negative
> > Piezo
> > Any ideas on how to price the 3 mediums above? I could do any one of them. I
> > need to give them a quote by the AM. I have done deals like this with RC
> > prints only at 12.00 each. I can do 300 RC 8x10 in about 4 hours. I rather do
> > better and get more.
> > Anybody done any volume sales with Hotel type projects? Normally I don't
> > offer 8x10's at all anymore.
> > Steven  Meyers
> > http://www.xray-art.com
> 
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Re: [Digital BW] Need price quote help fast

2001-10-10 by sdmey4@aol.com

In a message dated 10/09/2001 5:09:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
jerryolson@... writes:


> Also try and find out what light they will be viewed under. 
> 
> Jerry
> I can only guess that since they want 8x10's and its a hotel, that they 
> would end up in the Bathroom or vanity area. You have all seen the Prints 
> found in Hotel rooms! These are not usually expensive items. Believe me I 
> do not want to sell myself cheap. But usually a 3-15k sale is a sale I do 
> want to make somehow. I just don't have any idea what the going rate for 
> this type of project is.

Steve M.

> 
> 
> 
> 




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Re: [Digital BW] Need price quote help fast

2001-10-10 by ternahan

Steve,
Don't sell your lovely images at cost...ask for a lot and come down some if
you have to. But I think $7500 would be rock bottom. And make sure they are
paying for shipping, insurance, packaging and matting and framing. Now if
they will you pay you to deliver them and give you lodging...negotiate.
t
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> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 20:17:23 EDT
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Need price quote help fast
> 
> In a message dated 10/09/2001 5:09:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> jerryolson@... writes:
> 
> 
>> Also try and find out what light they will be viewed under.
>> 
>> Jerry
>> I can only guess that since they want 8x10's and its a hotel, that they
>> would end up in the Bathroom or vanity area. You have all seen the Prints
>> found in Hotel rooms! These are not usually expensive items. Believe me I
>> do not want to sell myself cheap. But usually a 3-15k sale is a sale I do
>> want to make somehow. I just don't have any idea what the going rate for
>> this type of project is.
> 
> Steve M.
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Need price quote help fast

2001-10-10 by Martin Wesley

Steve,

A good custom lab would charge you $30 to $100 per 8x10. I hate to 
see you get less than the reproduction costs.

There is also LightJet or Fujix which I believe you could get at less 
than $10 in those volumes.

If $12 is all you can get, give them RC.

Good luck and let us know how you do,

Martin

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., sdmey4@a... wrote:
> I client has asked for a volume price quote for 300 8x10's of two 
images. For 
> a hotel project in Japan. I can only guess that they want cheap.
> Rc prints
> Silver Fiber from digital  negative
> Piezo
> Any ideas on how to price the 3 mediums above? I could do any one 
of them. I 
> need to give them a quote by the AM. I have done deals like this 
with RC 
> prints only at 12.00 each. I can do 300 RC 8x10 in about 4 hours. I 
rather do 
> better and get more.
> Anybody done any volume sales with Hotel type projects? Normally I 
don't
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> offer 8x10's at all anymore.
> Steven  Meyers
> http://www.xray-art.com
> 
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Flora: call for enties

2001-10-10 by Todd Flashner

Thinking about Steve M's possible large print sale deal --particularly
thinking how beautiful his work is-- made me think I should let you all know
about a call for entries by Graphis Publications for their first edition of
a book called Flora 1. The deadline is October 15th. I know several people
on this list have wonderful bodies of work which focus on plant life.
However, I called their office and they are open to landscapes too if their
focus is on flora/fauna-- so it's not just for photos of flowers.

Graphis is a very highly regarded publisher that many creatives look through
it for inspiration, so not only is it an honor to have your work selected
for publication but it's also great PR which can often lead to sales and
assignments. I'd say their focus is primarily on the commercial arts but
with a greater emphasis on the word "art" than just about all others of it's
kind. 

The usual disclaimers apply, I'm just a fan of their books and magazine and
hope to submit a few inkjets of my own. If anyone enters, good luck.

Here's the link:

http://graphis.com/bks/cfe/cfe.cal.0.EN.html

Todd

Re: [Digital BW] Need price quote help fast

2001-10-10 by sdmey4@aol.com

In a message dated 10/09/2001 8:20:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
ternahan@... writes:

Don't wory Trish, My days of working for cost are behind me. I like your 
number as the bottom, anything less I would probably regret it. I've been 
interested in Hotel deals but I always thought 16x20's would be the ticket, 
this 8x10 thing kind of was a curve ball! You have one of the images, I can 
tell you those tiny fine lines you see on your 8x10 really open up at 16x20 
and you really start to see. At the small 8x10 size I have several images 
where the fine details just are too tight and are somewhat lost!
Appreciate the input..
Steve M.

> Steve,
> >Don't sell your lovely images at cost...ask for a lot and come down some if
> >you have to. But I think $7500 would be rock bottom. And make sure they are
> >paying for shipping, insurance, packaging and matting and framing. Now if
> >they will you pay you to deliver them and give you lodging...negotiate.
> 




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Re: [Digital BW] Need price quote help fast

2001-10-10 by Steadman Uhlich

Steve,

A few threads ago, there was discussion about how some photographers felt honored to have a print hung in a bathroom, as it is one of the most visited rooms in the house.  

Having 300 prints in  300 bathrooms would be an achievement.  It would sure get a lot of traffic and visibility.

Good luck (seriously) and if I found one of your prints in a hotel bathroom, I would be lucky...as most of them are probably going to disappear with the towels. (grin)

Best of luck, 

Steadman
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  In a message dated 10/09/2001 5:09:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
  jerryolson@... writes:


  > Also try and find out what light they will be viewed under. 
  > 
  > Jerry
  > I can only guess that since they want 8x10's and its a hotel, that they 
  > would end up in the Bathroom or vanity area. You have all seen the Prints 
  > found in Hotel rooms! These are not usually expensive items. Believe me I 
  > do not want to sell myself cheap. But usually a 3-15k sale is a sale I do 
  > want to make somehow. I just don't have any idea what the going rate for 
  > this type of project is.

  Steve M.

  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 




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