Digital BW, The Print

Just thought I would toss out a little price-per-print info for anyone
kicking around the idea of getting one of these printers.  All pricing
is based on US numbers.

HP specifies the approximate page yield of the No. 59 gray cartridge
to be 110 4x6 prints:

http://tinyurl.com/26fdw

That extrapolates down to about 33 8x10 prints.  At $25 a cart your
ink costs would be approximately $.76 per 8x10.

So for your different papers:

HP Premium Photo glossy letter size (C6979A), 50 sheets is about $30,
for $.60 per sheet.
HP Premium Plus Photo glossy letter size (Q1785A), 50 sheets is about
$36, for $.72 per sheet.
HP Premium Plus Photo matte letter size (C6950A), 20 sheets is about
$16, for $.80 per sheet.

Keep in mind HP inks are dye-based.  To get the advertised print life
you need to use the HP inks and the HP papers.  Non-swellable,
non-encapsulating papers will greatly reduce your print life.

Just in case anyone was curious.

Rad

For no more clogs, that is a real bargain!  (Even though I have read 
that it may come in closer to $2/print considering darker subjects)

I was into MIS and Epson for quality, not out of cheapness (ok, I was 
too cheap to try PiezographyBW first;)

As to quality, I recieved two samples from list members (thanks Paul 
and Nicholas!) and have to say the output is simply stellar.  The 
gradient and stepwedge comes in close to a 2200 + IP for accuracy and 
smoothness.  Yes, you can produce fine art prints using this system.  
I hope it gives Epson the big kick in the butt that they seem to need 
to take b&w seriously.  What a hack job putting out the 2200 without 
fixing metamorism somehow (heck, they could have done a good cheap 
RIP for just their own papers... won't that have helped their paper 
sales?).  How much would it cost them to put together a good quad or 
hex system... heck, they didn't even properly use their two black 
channels as far as I can tell.

HP is the first printer company to really take b&w seriously and 
should be commended... I only hope they come out with a wide carriage 
large capacity printer really soon.

mark

PS  My wife has already bought me a 7660 for my birthday:)  133$ at 
walmart.

PSS  Nicholas also sent a sample of his BO only printing and it was 
quite good... he is right, for some subjects it looks great.

PSS  I'll keep my 1160 hanging around for large prints or when I need 
to practice swearing at an inanimate object;)  

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Radimus" 
<radimus@p...> wrote:
> Just thought I would toss out a little price-per-print info for 
anyone
> kicking around the idea of getting one of these printers.  All 
pricing
> is based on US numbers.
> 
> HP specifies the approximate page yield of the No. 59 gray cartridge
> to be 110 4x6 prints:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/26fdw
> 
> That extrapolates down to about 33 8x10 prints.  At $25 a cart your
> ink costs would be approximately $.76 per 8x10.
> 
> So for your different papers:
> 
> HP Premium Photo glossy letter size (C6979A), 50 sheets is about 
$30,
> for $.60 per sheet.
> HP Premium Plus Photo glossy letter size (Q1785A), 50 sheets is 
about
> $36, for $.72 per sheet.
> HP Premium Plus Photo matte letter size (C6950A), 20 sheets is about
> $16, for $.80 per sheet.
> 
> Keep in mind HP inks are dye-based.  To get the advertised print 
life

> you need to use the HP inks and the HP papers.  Non-swellable,
> non-encapsulating papers will greatly reduce your print life.
> 
> Just in case anyone was curious.
> 
> Rad

Hi all,
         This is likely a dumb question...when using the PremiereArt Hot 
Press 325 gsm paper, do I need to move the paper thickness setting to the 
"+" sign on the 1280?  I wasn't sure when paper became "thick" vs. "thin" 
or "normal."

thanks,
allan