Digital BW, The Print

davidhatton@... wrote:

> > >
> > > >Giclee print IMO is just a more noble word for "inkjet" print  comes from
> > > >french word "giclée" (bubble) - was originally used for the IRIS printer,
> > > >nowadays sometimes used for "fine art prints".
> > >
> > > Not quite. The French official translation is "to spurt, as of blood or
> > > water" and obviously refers to the action of the Piezo heads spurting ink
> > > onto the paper using an inkjet printer. Unfortunately there is also  a
> > > very vulgar connotation to the term in local slang, so I would  avoid
> > > using it in France. Yeah, the Iris folks coined the term for their fine
> > > art prints - guess they were searching for a hoity-toity foreign sounding
> > > name so as not to use the word "inkjet"...but they should have done a bit
> > > more research  (g).
> > >
>
> But to answer the original question - No it's not true to say the a
> desktop printed image is 'Giclee'. In order to 'giclee' it follows
> that pressure must be applied to the fluid. I don't think a dripping
> tap could be said to be squirting. (if you follow the analogy.)

But inkjets' inks are under applied with pressure (hence the term inkJET) albeit, tiny pressure, but hey, it's
a tiny ink droplet (not even considered a 'drop').  The electrical charge to the printhead causes to the ink
to discharge from the nozzle.  That is not the same as a 'drip'.

Harvey Ferdschneider
partner, SKID Photography, NYC






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I agree entirely! And apart from that... NO-ONE would be using this whole
technology if someone had called it an 'inkdrip printer'! Not even 'turbo
inkdrip' would have worked...

Similarly, maybe LASER printers would not have gone so far had they been
called 'Static printers'?

But what if inkjet printers had instead been called 'paintjet' or 'artjet'
or 'piezojet' (i.e. dereferencing the technology or the ink, and instead
focussing on the result... or the technology). Would we be dealing with
different customer reactions now?

How much does a name influence customers???

Nij

> -----Original Message-----
> From: SKID Photography [mailto:skid@...]
>
> But inkjets' inks are under applied with pressure (hence the term
> inkJET) albeit, tiny pressure, but hey, it's
> a tiny ink droplet (not even considered a 'drop').  The
> electrical charge to the printhead causes to the ink
> to discharge from the nozzle.  That is not the same as a 'drip'.

I don't know about how they came up with the name, but I do know that, at least, in the beginning there were
several different approaches as to *how* to get the ink to move.  In 1989 I photographed a senior scientist in
Yonkers NY,  (I think he was working for either IBM or Xerox, can't remember), for Cornell University's Super
Computing facility, to illustrate his research approach to inkjet printing (for which he used Cornell's Super
Computer, 1 of approx. 10 in the country, at that time).

We were looking for the *simplest* graphic prop to 'image' his research.  We first tried using an ink filled
turkey baster (*VERY* messy) and finally had him shoot a water pistol full of ink on a large sheet of seamless
paper.  silly, really.  :- )

In retrospect, the funniest thing about that whole project is that the computer I'm now using, is probably at
least as fast and as powerful as the Super Computers were back then .....Time moves quickly in the high tech
world...Hang on!

Harvey Ferdschneider
partner, SKID Photography, NYC

Nij wrote:

> I agree entirely! And apart from that... NO-ONE would be using this whole
> technology if someone had called it an 'inkdrip printer'! Not even 'turbo
> inkdrip' would have worked...
>
> Similarly, maybe LASER printers would not have gone so far had they been
> called 'Static printers'?
>
> But what if inkjet printers had instead been called 'paintjet' or 'artjet'
> or 'piezojet' (i.e. dereferencing the technology or the ink, and instead
> focussing on the result... or the technology). Would we be dealing with
> different customer reactions now?
>
> How much does a name influence customers???
>
> Nij
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: SKID Photography [mailto:skid@...]
> >
> > But inkjets' inks are under applied with pressure (hence the term
> > inkJET) albeit, tiny pressure, but hey, it's
> > a tiny ink droplet (not even considered a 'drop').  The
> > electrical charge to the printhead causes to the ink
> > to discharge from the nozzle.  That is not the same as a 'drip'.


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I believe it means the amount of prints done in a batch, or total.Like :
Tirage:100 prints; print #5/100 (or #6, #22, #89, etc.).  That\ufffds what it
means in portuguese.
Rodolpho Pajuaba
www.pajuaba.com.br

> I'm not Nina, but it this context, I believe it means photographic print.
>
> Helene
>
> << Nina, what does Tirage mean? >>
>