Digital BW, The Print

you essentially never need to replace your carts so long as ink will 
pass through them.  If you decide that using the vacuum pump method 
to fill them is the only way that you want to charge your system you 
should be able to just plug them with anything you want (MIS supplies 
aluminum rivets that could easily be purchased as a hardware store) 
and redo that, but if you have ink in your tubes you have to go 
through the whole hassle of cleaning or replacing them.  Personally, 
I replace them.  I only used my vacuum pump for the first filling, 
but had to replace tubes many times because the MIS black ink clogs 
the tube.  There is no science to this stuff.  You need to get your 
lines full and your carts about half full and then everything works.  

mark

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Glenn Barry" 
<glennrbarry@o...> wrote:
> What about replacing the plugs in the bottom like those that were 
available
> for the re-fillable (not-cis) carts, that will be cheaper than 
replacing the
> whole cartridge system.
> 
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andre" <am1000@v...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 11:12 AM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: CIS with 1160
> 
> 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "byushooter"
> > <jellerbe@j...> wrote:
> > > Thanks Andre for the quick reply.  Since the cartridges were
> > > installed and the bottom seal pierced, can I reuse them?  Can I
> > just
> > > tape over the bottom of them or something so that I can create a
> > > vacuum with the syringe?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jenny
> >
> > I'm afraid you may need a fresh set of cartridges because you 
need to
> > put a vacuum in them so that they draw the ink from the bottles
> > through the tubes lines. And when you draw air from those filled
> > cartridges for said vacuum, you'll have ink overflowing into your
> > siphon! Also, I dont know if the tape of the bottom would hold 
when
> > you start that vacuum. I fail to see how it could be done 
otherwise,
> > but you never know, maybe someone will explain how to do it.
> >
> > Read the pdf carefully and make sure you understand the entire
> > procedure before you start and take your time.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Andre
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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What about replacing the plugs in the bottom like those that were available
for the re-fillable (not-cis) carts, that will be cheaper than replacing the
whole cartridge system.

Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre" <am1000@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 11:12 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: CIS with 1160


> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "byushooter"
> <jellerbe@j...> wrote:
> > Thanks Andre for the quick reply.  Since the cartridges were
> > installed and the bottom seal pierced, can I reuse them?  Can I
> just
> > tape over the bottom of them or something so that I can create a
> > vacuum with the syringe?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jenny
>
> I'm afraid you may need a fresh set of cartridges because you need to
> put a vacuum in them so that they draw the ink from the bottles
> through the tubes lines. And when you draw air from those filled
> cartridges for said vacuum, you'll have ink overflowing into your
> siphon! Also, I dont know if the tape of the bottom would hold when
> you start that vacuum. I fail to see how it could be done otherwise,
> but you never know, maybe someone will explain how to do it.
>
> Read the pdf carefully and make sure you understand the entire
> procedure before you start and take your time.
>
> Cheers,
> Andre
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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