Digital BW, The Print

Todd,

You wrote:

>Have you done any fade testing of the MIS VM WARM curve? Just wondering if
>the untoned MIS inks fare better or worse than Piezo inks,

I have not run any warm curve prints lately.  My sense is that the coolness
somehow helps to protect the image.  The cyan pigment RIT test on the MIS
website is about the best test result I've ever seen.

I did test standard Piezo against standard MIS quads some time ago.  That
test is on the forum Message Related Files.  It is because of that and
similar tests, as well as the desire for competing sources of ink and cost
differences, that I decided to switch from the Piezo-based variable-tone
inkset that I had first developed to the MIS-based one that I now use.
However, you will notice that I also preferred the Piezo black, which
luckily MIS was able to find or duplicate.

>if since
>they're already warm the color shift is less apparent
>to the image than with the neutral curve?

I would not be surprised if the warming issue is one reason Cone has been
reluctant to come out with an inkset that is neutral on coated paper.  At
this point I'm just accepting the coated paper warming. (I'll test some
Somerset Velvet one of these days to see if the inks really don't warm on
it -- I'm skeptical.  SV does print less warm initially than EAM -- but just
as green with my Piezo.)  I've balance the "nc" curve to keep the image
close to neutral.  With the inksets I'm now working on, I'm just assuming
people will use modern coated papers -- with EAM still the standard.

Paul

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
snip
...I'll test some
> Somerset Velvet one of these days to see if the inks really don't warm on
> it -- I'm skeptical.

Yeah, I was probably fibbing.
Tyler