Digital BW, The Print

I'm looking to have a custom printer's chop or "blindstamp" made to 
emboss my prints and am hoping someone can direct me to a good 
source.

Thanks in Advance!

Bill

www.billschwab.com

Bill,

There's been a discussion of this issue on the Yahoo Digital_Fineart List in
recent months and the owner of the list, Harald Johnson, has been posting
some info on his web site at www.dpandi.com.

>>I'm looking to have a custom printer's chop or "blindstamp" made to
emboss my prints and am hoping someone can direct me to a good
source.<<

Tom Keesling
Intelligent Design, Inc.

I'm comparing 'NoMoreCarts CIS' sold by InkJetMall and InkJetArt, and 
'Continuous Flow System' (CFS) from MIS Associates -- for an Epson 1160 
using a quadtone ink set.  Any experiences to share?  Problems?  Support?

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Hi Arthur,

Hands down, I'd say to go with MIS. Why? Customer service for one -- 
MIS really understands CFS and is there to help you keep it running; 
they sell all the parts to keep their system working long-term, and 
they will generally replace anything that fails when it shouldn't.

Then of course, there's price. Take a peek at the new pricing from 
MIS on the 1160 CFS -- it's great! The new UT inksets are available 
for the 1160, and I personally use the UT-FSN with both curve-based 
workflows and the R9/PiezographyBW software. Results are great!

Since I have both systems (nomorecarts and MIS) - that's my opinion 
based on my experience with both the designs and the vendors.

Hope this helps...

 -Richard

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Arthur Fink 
<arthur@a...> wrote:
> I'm comparing 'NoMoreCarts CIS' sold by InkJetMall and InkJetArt, 
and 
> 'Continuous Flow System' (CFS) from MIS Associates -- for an Epson 
1160 
> using a quadtone ink set.  Any experiences to share?  Problems?  
Support?

> 
>   A r t h u r    F i n k      P h o t o g r a p h y
>   .................................................
>   Ten New Island Avenue     · 207.766.5722
>   Peaks Island, Maine 04108 · arthur@a...

--- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "richard_h95050" 
<richardh@j...> wrote:
> Hi Arthur, Hands down, I'd say to go with MIS. 

Yes, I agree with Richard 100%. Their prices are very competitive, 
too. They also sell lots of parts to construct your own CIS. I 
purchased my first CFS and then proceeded to build 4 others without 
any problems.

The key thing to any CFS system is keeping the ink level in each 
bottle about the same or 1 mm lower than the printhead. I made 
special rulers to make it easier to check the levels. This has 
really helped reduced frequent cleanings. Maintaining ink levels 
like this has enabled me to go for weeks without printing and still 
get good nozzle checks with occasional single cleaning cycles. 
Having 5 printers all running CFS I have to reduce wasted time and 
ink on cleanings.

--nick

> Yes, I agree with Richard 100%. Their prices are very competitive, 
> too. They also sell lots of parts to construct your own CIS. I 
> purchased my first CFS and then proceeded to build 4 others 
> without any problems.


Dear Nick,

this sounds very interesting.

I also thought about building my own CIS, however had problems 
getting some parts, e.g. the little plastic "tubes" glued on the 
cart to attach the rubber tubings on.

Is there an instruction somewhere on the internet? A list of part 
supplyers?

Bye

Andreas

Look at the MIS site. Not only do they sell all the parts, you can
download their instructions. Actually, the only assembly work is
drilling, taping the carts and screwing in the elbow fittings. MIS
even sells the drill, tap and glue to do that. But when you add up the
price of the resettable chips, the bottom fill adapters, the brackets
for the carts & printer and everything else, you just end up buying
their system.

Bob Michaels

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "nepenthez2001"
<andreas@w...> wrote:

> > Yes, I agree with Richard 100%. Their prices are very competitive, 
> > too. They also sell lots of parts to construct your own CIS. I 
> > purchased my first CFS and then proceeded to build 4 others 
> > without any problems.
> 
> 
> Dear Nick,
> 
> this sounds very interesting.
> 
> I also thought about building my own CIS, however had problems 
> getting some parts, e.g. the little plastic "tubes" glued on the 
> cart to attach the rubber tubings on.
> 
> Is there an instruction somewhere on the internet? A list of part 
> supplyers?
> 
> Bye
> 
> Andreas

For several years I've had a No More Carts' CIS 
on each of two 1160s, one with a MIS quadtone ink 
set (Sepia - Neutral) and the other with the 
Media Street Gen4 CMYK ink set (except that I 
substitute the MIS VM K for the MediaStreet Gen4 
[25 percent dye] K).

One NMC CIS came from InkJetArt and the other 
from MediaStreet. Each gave me good service, and 
so has each CIS. I haven't had any experience to 
speak of with either firm's service/support. 
Neither NMC CIS has ever required anything other 
than installation and re-filling and, in the case 
of one of them, replacement of the velcro 
attachment of the plastic arm which supports the 
tubes. I am a big fan of NMC and its CIS.
--
Sam

>I'm comparing 'NoMoreCarts CIS' sold by InkJetMall and InkJetArt, and
>'Continuous Flow System' (CFS) from MIS Associates -- for an Epson 1160
>using a quadtone ink set.  Any experiences to share?  Problems?  Support?
>
>   A r t h u r    F i n k      P h o t o g r a p h y
>   .................................................
>   Ten New Island Avenue     · 207.766.5722
>   Peaks Island, Maine 04108 · arthur@arthurfink.com