Digital BW, The Print

Hello

I am considering purchasing the UT2 system with Paul Roark's curves 
or possible Roy Harrington's Quadtone RIP.  Question I have is are 
there curves or profiles for the UT2 inset with the Hahnemuhle 
William Turner Paper?  I use the Photo Rag paper for less textured 
images but I primarily use the William Turner paper.

Thanks for all feedback in advance.

Regards
Ross

> I am considering purchasing the UT2 system with Paul Roark's curves 
> or possible Roy Harrington's Quadtone RIP.  Question I have is are 
> there curves or profiles for the UT2 inset with the Hahnemuhle 
> William Turner Paper? 
> Ross

I use an Epson 890/UT2/QTR

The surfaces are different and Paul's PhotoRag curves will need a little tweaking  for 
William Turner. With that said Roy made custom profiles for all the papers I use - including 
William Turner - and I think will include this profile in the future to other users. 

But my recomendation - if you don't have a paper profiler - have Roy make you custom 
profiles. The price is very fair and the output is really stunning.

Hi John

How often do you have custom profiles created?  How many times have 
you had your William Turner profile re-profiled?

Thanks
Ross



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "John Vitollo" 
<jvlist@c...> wrote:
>  > I am considering purchasing the UT2 system with Paul Roark's 
curves 
> > or possible Roy Harrington's Quadtone RIP.  Question I have is 
are 
> > there curves or profiles for the UT2 inset with the Hahnemuhle 
> > William Turner Paper? 
> > Ross
> 
> I use an Epson 890/UT2/QTR
> 
> The surfaces are different and Paul's PhotoRag curves will need a 
little tweaking  for 
> William Turner. With that said Roy made custom profiles for all the 
papers I use - including 
> William Turner - and I think will include this profile in the 
future to other users. 
> 
> But my recomendation - if you don't have a paper profiler - have 
Roy make you custom 
> profiles. The price is very fair and the output is really stunning.

> How often do you have custom profiles created?  How many times have 
> you had your William Turner profile re-profiled?
> Ross

Have been using the 890/UT2/QTR combo for only a couple of months. So only had the 
profiles created once. I did many step wedges and found William Turner needed it's own 
profile. Using the PhotoRag profile on William Turner was close but I thought "what the 
heck - might as well do it right." and it was money well spent for sure.

If you have an Eye-One Photo to read the step wedges you could do it yourself.

So John..

Do You Like The WIlliam Turner Better Than The Photo Rag or is it another
nice Choice?
Its Interesting Following you guys with the curves..

Hope everyone Had a Great Father's Day..

Jim Doyle

J.Doyle Enterprises L.L.C.
114 Old Orchard Rd.
Cherry Hill, NJ 08003
856-424-8660
http://www.shadesofpaper.com

  -----Original Message-----
  From: John Vitollo [mailto:jvlist@...]
  Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 10:00 PM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Hahnemuhle William Turner Paper UT2 Curves/QTR


  > How often do you have custom profiles created?  How many times have
  > you had your William Turner profile re-profiled?
  > Ross

  Have been using the 890/UT2/QTR combo for only a couple of months. So only
had the
  profiles created once. I did many step wedges and found William Turner
needed it's own
  profile. Using the PhotoRag profile on William Turner was close but I
thought "what the
  heck - might as well do it right." and it was money well spent for sure.

  If you have an Eye-One Photo to read the step wedges you could do it
yourself.



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> So John..
> Do You Like The WIlliam Turner Better Than The Photo Rag or is it another
> nice Choice?
> Its Interesting Following you guys with the curves..
> J.Doyle Enterprises L.L.C.
> 856-424-8660
> http://www.shadesofpaper.com

Last month or so I asked about Hahnemuhle's William Turner paper and received some 
excellent info from the list members. I thought I'd pass on my experience with William 
Turner since I've been using it regularly now.

I've been using exclusively Epson Enhanced Matte for proofing and everyday prints and 
Hahnemuhle's PhotoRag for a nicer presentation. But I wanted a paper with a little more 
interest - a little more surface texture or tooth. In the past I used German Etching - the 
surface has a rough texture that actually has little threads of cotton if examined closely 
but a touch too rough for me. 

Jim Doyle - www.shadesofpaper.com - was nice enough to send me some sample William 
Turner paper. 

First I tried Epson Velvet Fine Art which is essentially Epson's version of PhotoRag...so that 
paper was out. The tooth was the same as PhotoRag and using my eyedropper Dmax was 
better with PhotoRag too.

Next I printed with William Turner. Under a loupe William Turner has a rough orange-peel-
skin like tooth to the surface and might be a touch warmer when compared to PhotoRag. 
The tooth is much closer to German Etching than PhotoRag and has a fine sandpaper feel 
to the surface. Dmax was excellent too.

So now my favorite paper at this time is William Turner with PhotoRag a close second.

I'm printing with Epson 890/UT2/QTR

John V.