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Epson Stylus Photo 2200

Epson Stylus Photo 2200

2004-07-17 by lwsandman

Can only get "green" or "pink" shaded black & white prints.  Does
anyone know of methods of overcoming the "colored" output ?  

Thanks,

Les

RE: [Digital BW] Epson Stylus Photo 2200

2004-07-17 by Ken Carney

Les, if you want to use the 2200 for color also go to
www.colorbytesoftware.com and cough up $500 for ImagePrint.  It is easy to
learn, makes good b&w prints on matte papers such as Arches Infinity etc.,
and you will save at least that much in ink and paper, not to mention your
sanity.

Regards,

  --Ken Carney
    www.kencarney.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: lwsandman [mailto:lwsandman@...] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 3:49 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Epson Stylus Photo 2200
> 
> Can only get "green" or "pink" shaded black & white prints.  
> Does anyone know of methods of overcoming the "colored" output ?  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Les
>

monochrome metamerism on the 2200

2004-07-17 by john dean

For a cheaper solution I would try to download the free Atkins 
profiles on the Epson website . They are much better than the 
ones that came with your printer. Second, and probably more 
useful is to read about the Quad Tone Rip now available for the 
Ultra Chrome inkset. Everyone that is using it and discussing 
this on the Piezography3000 Yahoo Group raves about its ability 
to straighten out the color crossovers and metamerism. Look for 
the postings that include QTR in the title.




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
"lwsandman" <lwsandman@y...> wrote:
> Can only get "green" or "pink" shaded black & white prints.  
Does
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> anyone know of methods of overcoming the "colored" output ?  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Les

Re: [Digital BW] Epson Stylus Photo 2200

2004-07-17 by Steve Kale

What platform are you running?  Mac or PC?  If Mac try Quadtone RIP (PC
version on its way).
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From: "lwsandman" <lwsandman@...>
Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:48:38 -0000
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Epson Stylus Photo 2200

Can only get "green" or "pink" shaded black & white prints.  Does
anyone know of methods of overcoming the "colored" output ?

Thanks,

Les




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Quad Tone Rip - here it is

2004-07-17 by john dean

Here is the location for downloading the Quad Tone Rip, also 
read the previous postings about it on THIS site.

http://www.harrington.com/QuadReadMe.html

Re: [Digital BW] Epson Stylus Photo 2200

2004-07-17 by Steve Kale

Les

Imageprint will help your colour work also if you don¹t have the ability to
get good profiles for your printer (eg with an Eye One Photo).  (If you have
a well-profiled machine I doubt you will notice much difference in your
colour work except in situations where a colour photo contains large amounts
of B&W.)  Problem is that it costs $500.  If you have a Mac, QTR is fabulous
and only costs $50.  Roy is working on a PC version.  This all assumes that
you want to use the same ink set for colour and B&W.  If you are prepared to
have two sets (one for colour and one for B&W) and incur the extra ink use
associated with swapping then a bunch of other alternatives are available,
probably most notably the UT7 ink set from MIS (with either Paul Roark¹s
workflow or with QTR).

Steve

PS I have a 2100 (European 2200) and use it with QTR and I am very very
pleased.
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From: "lwsandman" <lwsandman@...>
Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:48:38 -0000
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Epson Stylus Photo 2200

Can only get "green" or "pink" shaded black & white prints.  Does
anyone know of methods of overcoming the "colored" output ?

Thanks,

Les




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color accuacy with Ultra-Chrome

2004-07-17 by john dean

Every inkjet printer should have a custom profile made on the 
paper that is most used, at the very least. The best results I have 
found are www.profilecity.com. 'They charge $100.00 each. But 
for color  try the Atkins profiles on the Epson site first. They are 
free.  However, there is no real substitue for a well made custom 
profile designed for the unique footprint of your machine.

Re: [Digital BW] Epson Stylus Photo 2200

2004-07-17 by Daniel Staver

I'll just go along with everyone else and recommend QTR. Whether you're 
working with the original Epson Ultrachrome inkset or using a third 
party BW inkset it will give you great results.

I've tried it both with the UT7 inkset using custom profiles and with 
the MIS 7600 Archival Pigment inkset using the supplied 2200 profiles, 
and the quality is excellent with both inksets.

If you're on PC I would recommend you to just hold on a little bit until 
the windows version is ready, no need to spend $500 on Imageprint.

--
Daniel Staver
http://daniel.staver.no

RE: [Digital BW] Epson Stylus Photo 2200

2004-07-18 by Ken Carney

That sounds pretty good since the IP license is more like $500 per year if
you want major upgrades.  Do you get a lot of profiles with QTR?  One of the
things I like about IP is that they have a profile for about every paper, or
at least the ones that I like.  I chose IP since I wanted a simple, out of
the box solution for printing once I had done the work in Photoshop, with a
calibrated monitor.  So far, so good.

Regards,

  --Ken Carney
    www.kencarney.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Staver [mailto:daniel@...] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 6:12 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson Stylus Photo 2200
> 
> I'll just go along with everyone else and recommend QTR. 
> Whether you're working with the original Epson Ultrachrome 
> inkset or using a third party BW inkset it will give you 
> great results.
> 
> I've tried it both with the UT7 inkset using custom profiles 
> and with the MIS 7600 Archival Pigment inkset using the 
> supplied 2200 profiles, and the quality is excellent with 
> both inksets.
> 
> If you're on PC I would recommend you to just hold on a 
> little bit until the windows version is ready, no need to 
> spend $500 on Imageprint.
> 
> --
> Daniel Staver
> http://daniel.staver.no

RE: [Digital BW] monochrome metamerism on the 2200

2004-07-18 by Stan Shire

Where are these profiles located? Search for 2200 or profile or atkins
doesn't find it.
Thanks
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-----Original Message-----
From: john dean [mailto:deanwork2003@...] 
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 6:22 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] monochrome metamerism on the 2200

For a cheaper solution I would try to download the free Atkins 
profiles on the Epson website . They are much better than the 
ones that came with your printer. Second, and probably more 
useful is to read about the Quad Tone Rip now available for the 
Ultra Chrome inkset. Everyone that is using it and discussing 
this on the Piezography3000 Yahoo Group raves about its ability 
to straighten out the color crossovers and metamerism. Look for 
the postings that include QTR in the title.




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
"lwsandman" <lwsandman@y...> wrote:
> Can only get "green" or "pink" shaded black & white prints.  
Does
> anyone know of methods of overcoming the "colored" output ?  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Les




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Re: monochrome metamerism on the 2200

2004-07-18 by lulalake_1999

Hi John,

I went to the Epson America site and couldn't find the profiles. 
Would you please post a link to that page?

Thanks much

Jules

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" 
<deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
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> For a cheaper solution I would try to download the free Atkins 
> profiles on the Epson website . They are much better than the 
> ones that came with your printer. Second, and probably more 
> useful is to read about the Quad Tone Rip now available for the 
> Ultra Chrome inkset. Everyone that is using it and discussing 
> this on the Piezography3000 Yahoo Group raves about its ability 
> to straighten out the color crossovers and metamerism. Look for 
> the postings that include QTR in the title.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
> "lwsandman" <lwsandman@y...> wrote:
> > Can only get "green" or "pink" shaded black & white prints.  
> Does
> > anyone know of methods of overcoming the "colored" output ?  
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Les

Re: monochrome metamerism on the 2200

2004-07-18 by John Vitollo

> I went to the Epson America site and couldn't find the profiles. 
> Would you please post a link to that page?
> Jules

Here's the 2200 Epson profiles link - but these are not Atkins profiles. Atkins never made 
profiles for the 2200. If link does not work they can be found when you go to Drivers & 
Downloads for the 2200.

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/EditorialAnnouncement.jsp?
BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=42114986

An alternitive are profiles by Nick Wheeler and Eric Bullock. Profiles are for both full color 
and small-gamut (like b+w or sepia). Make sure your printer settings are set properly for 
each profile.

http://lenscraft.com/profiles/

Re: monochrome metamerism on the 2200

2004-07-19 by lulalake_1999

Thanks loads

Jules

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "John Vitollo" 
<jvlist@c...> wrote:
> > I went to the Epson America site and couldn't find the profiles. 
> > Would you please post a link to that page?
> > Jules
> 
> Here's the 2200 Epson profiles link - but these are not Atkins 
profiles. Atkins never made 
> profiles for the 2200. If link does not work they can be found when 
you go to Drivers & 
> Downloads for the 2200.
> 
> http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/EditorialAnnouncement.jsp?
> BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=42114986
> 
> An alternitive are profiles by Nick Wheeler and Eric Bullock. 
Profiles are for both full color 
> and small-gamut (like b+w or sepia). Make sure your printer 
settings are set properly for
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> each profile.
> 
> http://lenscraft.com/profiles/

Epson Stylus Photo 2200

2006-06-22 by over40_98

Recently a friend gave me an Epson 2200 for free.  The one cavaet was 
that a printer message stating "parts in your printer are near the end 
of their service life, contact your dealer fro replacement."  This 
printer works, and looks well kept.  My question is; has anyone gotten 
this message, is it hard and expensive to fix?


Joe C.

Re: Epson Stylus Photo 2200

2006-06-22 by John Vitollo

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "over40_98" <over40_98@...> 
wrote:
>
> Recently a friend gave me an Epson 2200 for free.  The one cavaet was 
> that a printer message stating "parts in your printer are near the end 
> of their service life, contact your dealer fro replacement."  

If you are on windows try this program:

http://www.ssclg.com/epsone.shtml

You have to reset the protection counter.

Also try:

http://www.mwords.co.uk/catalog/articles_info.php?articles_id=107

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson Stylus Photo 2200

2006-06-22 by Joseph Chandler

Thanks, I'll try this this weekend, and let you know
the outcome.

Joe C.

--- John Vitollo <jvlist@...> wrote:

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> "over40_98" <over40_98@...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Recently a friend gave me an Epson 2200 for free. 
> The one cavaet was 
> > that a printer message stating "parts in your
> printer are near the end 
> > of their service life, contact your dealer fro
> replacement."  
> 
> If you are on windows try this program:
> 
> http://www.ssclg.com/epsone.shtml
> 
> You have to reset the protection counter.
> 
> Also try:
> 
>
http://www.mwords.co.uk/catalog/articles_info.php?articles_id=107
> 
> 
> 
> 


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RE: [Digital BW] Epson Stylus Photo 2200

2006-06-24 by Daniel Staver

It means the waste pads are nearly full. You can reset the counter and
continue printing by following this procedure:

http://www.2manuals.com/reset_wip.php

If you don't replace the waste pads at some point they will overflow and ink
will leak out of the printer. I'm waiting for that to happen to mine. I
reset the counter but can't find good instructions on replacing the waste
pads. Having a service center do it will cost more than a used 2100 so
that's out of the questions as well...

--
Daniel Staver
http://daniel.staver.no
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> Recently a friend gave me an Epson 2200 for free.  The one 
> cavaet was that a printer message stating "parts in your 
> printer are near the end of their service life, contact your 
> dealer fro replacement."  This printer works, and looks well 
> kept.  My question is; has anyone gotten this message, is it 
> hard and expensive to fix?

RE: [Digital BW] Re: Epson Stylus Photo 2200

2006-06-24 by Daniel Staver

SSC didn't work on my 2100, but the button reset method did. SSC is a very
nice utility for checking cartridge status, doing nozzle checks, head
cleaning and other maintenance though.

--
Daniel Staver
http://daniel.staver.no
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> Thanks, I'll try this this weekend, and let you know the outcome.
> > If you are on windows try this program:
> > http://www.ssclg.com/epsone.shtml

RE: Epson Stylus Photo 2200

2006-06-25 by Doug Fisher

>>I reset the counter but can't find good instructions on replacing the
waste pads. Having a service center do it will cost more than a used 2100 so
that's out of the questions as well...<<

Here you go:
http://tech.signalfade.com/article/21/replacing-an-epson-2200s-maintenance-t
anks

Lots of pretty pictures to keep you on the right track ;)

Doug
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Re: Epson Stylus Photo 2200

2006-06-25 by djon43

Here's some relevant chat about the topic...I can't speak from
experience, but I like that clean-and-reuse idea. 

http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00BDiI&tag=


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Fisher"
<dougfisher@...> wrote:
>
> >>I reset the counter but can't find good instructions on replacing the
> waste pads. Having a service center do it will cost more than a used
2100 so
> that's out of the questions as well...<<
> 
> Here you go:
>
http://tech.signalfade.com/article/21/replacing-an-epson-2200s-maintenance-t
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> anks
> 
> Lots of pretty pictures to keep you on the right track ;)
> 
> Doug
> ---
> BetterScanning.com - Innovative Accessories for Better Film Scanning
> http://www.BetterScanning.com/
>

RE: [Digital BW] Epson Stylus Photo 2200

2006-06-28 by Joseph Chandler

I've received several replys to this question.  
Thanks to all, I'm going to put this in motion this
week.  As i stated, this printer was kept in very good
condition, so I really want to use it as long as
possible.  

I haven't spent more than $400 for a printer in years,
and after spending $150 for my R220/MIS inks as a
Christmas present to myself, I don't want to go deeper
into the hole.  

Thanks again,

Joe C.

--- Daniel Staver <daniel@...> wrote:

> It means the waste pads are nearly full. You can
> reset the counter and
> continue printing by following this procedure:
> 
> http://www.2manuals.com/reset_wip.php
> 
> If you don't replace the waste pads at some point
> they will overflow and ink
> will leak out of the printer. I'm waiting for that
> to happen to mine. I
> reset the counter but can't find good instructions
> on replacing the waste
> pads. Having a service center do it will cost more
> than a used 2100 so
> that's out of the questions as well...
> 
> --
> Daniel Staver
> http://daniel.staver.no 
> 
> > Recently a friend gave me an Epson 2200 for free. 
> The one 
> > cavaet was that a printer message stating "parts
> in your 
> > printer are near the end of their service life,
> contact your 
> > dealer fro replacement."  This printer works, and
> looks well 
> > kept.  My question is; has anyone gotten this
> message, is it 
> > hard and expensive to fix?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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