Digital BW, The Print

Does the Entrada Natural print with as cold of a tone as the one with 
optical brighteners using Eboni ink? I realize the whites probably 
won't appear as cold as the optically enhance version.  I'm looking 
for papers that print neutral to very cold; any other suggestions are 
appreciated.

I got some Moab Entrada Natural yesterday. It might be a while
before I get a chance to print on it.
Thanks,
Randy

Coldest I've seen are the Legion Photo Matte, Moab Kayenta Photo Matte
and Hawk Mountain Condor Bright White.

Richard

----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Rancier <rrancier@...>
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 13:22:58 -0000
Subject: [Digital BW] Moab Entrada Natural
To: digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com

Does the Entrada Natural print with as cold of a tone as the one with 
optical brighteners using Eboni ink? I realize the whites probably 
won't appear as cold as the optically enhance version.  I'm looking 
for papers that print neutral to very cold; any other suggestions are 
appreciated.

Thanks Richard, I saw your earlier post, I will definately check them 
out.  Only problem is that some of the papers  like Condor aren't 
available to my knowledge in 8.5 x 11 shts.  Guess I could cut the 
sheets down until I get a larger printer.
Thanks again,
Randy

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Richard Sintchak 
<rich815@g...> wrote:
> Coldest I've seen are the Legion Photo Matte, Moab Kayenta Photo 
Matte
> and Hawk Mountain Condor Bright White.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Randy Rancier <rrancier@c...>
> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 13:22:58 -0000
> Subject: [Digital BW] Moab Entrada Natural
> To: digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com
> 
> Does the Entrada Natural print with as cold of a tone as the one 
with 
> optical brighteners using Eboni ink? I realize the whites probably 
> won't appear as cold as the optically enhance version.  I'm looking 
> for papers that print neutral to very cold; any other suggestions 
are 
> appreciated.

Hi Randy,

I'm not using Eboni Black but, with standard UC inks and the Epson 2200, Entrada Natural prints quite a bit warmer than Bright White, however, not as warm as Epson Ultrasmooth. Actually, Entrada Natural has recently become one of my favorite papers!

Alan Huntley

> 
> From: "Randy Rancier" <rrancier@...>
> Date: 2004/08/05 Thu AM 09:16:23 EDT
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Moab Entrada Natural
> 
> Does the Natural print with as cold of a tone as the one with optical 
> brighteners using Eboni ink?  I realize the whites probably won't 
> appear as cold as the optically enhance version.
> 
> I got some Moab Entrada Natural yesterday.  It might be a while 
> before I get a chance to print on it.
> Thanks,
> Randy

Where's a good vender for the Legion papers?  I understand that the 
Entrada white (not Natural) is very similar to the Condor; any 
comments?  Any response to the quality of blacks (i.e. Dmax) on the 
papers mentioned below to include Entrada White and Natural?
Randy

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Richard Sintchak 
<rich815@g...> wrote:
> Coldest I've seen are the Legion Photo Matte, Moab Kayenta Photo 
Matte
> and Hawk Mountain Condor Bright White.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Randy Rancier <rrancier@c...>
> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 13:22:58 -0000
> Subject: [Digital BW] Moab Entrada Natural
> To: digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com
> 
> Does the Entrada Natural print with as cold of a tone as the one 
with 
> optical brighteners using Eboni ink? I realize the whites probably 
> won't appear as cold as the optically enhance version.  I'm looking 
> for papers that print neutral to very cold; any other suggestions 
are 
> appreciated.

Hi Randy,

Hawk Mountain will sell the Condor BW in letter size, it's just not
listed on their site.  Price I was given is $32.50 for 25 sheets.

Richard

----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Rancier <rrancier@...>
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 16:07:39 -0000
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Moab Entrada Natural
To: digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com

Thanks Richard, I saw your earlier post, I will definately check them 
out.  Only problem is that some of the papers  like Condor aren't 
available to my knowledge in 8.5 x 11 shts.  Guess I could cut the 
sheets down until I get a larger printer.
Thanks again,
Randy

Richard Sintchak <rich815@g...> wrote:
> Hawk Mountain will sell the Condor BW in letter size, it's just not
> listed on their site.  Price I was given is $32.50 for 25 sheets.

I can confirm that having bought exactly such this afternoon. Diane
was extremely pleasant and easy to work with. 

Bob Michaels