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2004-08-27 by colingruk
Hi, I have just opened a box of Lyson Smooth Fine Art, a double sided paper. Is this a rebranded Hannemuele paper and if so what? Does it go by another name? Any info or experience of using it, closest paper for profile etc with MIS UT2 anf FSN or (OT) Epson 2100 Ultrachromes, would be appreciated. Colin
2004-08-27 by colingruk
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "colingruk" <colin.conway@b...> wrote: > Hi, > > I have just opened a box of Lyson Smooth Fine Art, a double sided > paper. Is this a rebranded Hannemuele paper and if so what? Does it > go by another name? Any info or experience of using it, closest > paper for profile etc with MIS UT2 anf FSN or (OT) Epson 2100 > Ultrachromes, would be appreciated. > > Colin Sorry folks for my 'missing head' - HDD failure! Colin
2004-08-27 by Jim Doyle
Colin Its The Same Thing as Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Duo.. Cheers Jim Doyle J.Doyle Enterprises L.L.C. 114 Old Orchard Rd. Cherry Hill, NJ 08003 856-424-8660 http://www.shadesofpaper.com
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From: colingruk [mailto:colin.conway@...]
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Hi,
I have just opened a box of Lyson Smooth Fine Art, a double sided
paper. Is this a rebranded Hannemuele paper and if so what? Does it
go by another name? Any info or experience of using it, closest
paper for profile etc with MIS UT2 anf FSN or (OT) Epson 2100
Ultrachromes, would be appreciated.
Colin
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2004-08-27 by john dean
Yes, Lyson papers are made by Hahnemuhle. The smooth fine art I belive is Hahnemuhle German Etching rag. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "colingruk" <colin.conway@b...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "colingruk" > <colin.conway@b...> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have just opened a box of Lyson Smooth Fine Art, a double sided > > paper. Is this a rebranded Hannemuele paper and if so what? Does > it > > go by another name? Any info or experience of using it, closest > > paper for profile etc with MIS UT2 anf FSN or (OT) Epson 2100 > > Ultrachromes, would be appreciated. > > > > Colin > > Sorry folks for my 'missing head' - HDD failure! > Colin
2004-08-27 by Antonis
Colin, Lyson used to claim that their papers, though made by Hahnemuehle, were coated with their own proprietary formula to be compatible with their dyes. Don't know if this is still true; don't know if it makes a difference with pigments. But it's worth keeping in mind that this may not be a simple rebranding as with other variants of the H. papers. Antonis --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "colingruk" <colin.conway@b...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "colingruk" > <colin.conway@b...> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have just opened a box of Lyson Smooth Fine Art, a double sided > > paper. Is this a rebranded Hannemuele paper and if so what? Does > it > > go by another name? Any info or experience of using it, closest > > paper for profile etc with MIS UT2 anf FSN or (OT) Epson 2100 > > Ultrachromes, would be appreciated. > > > > Colin > > Sorry folks for my 'missing head' - HDD failure! > Colin
2004-08-30 by colingruk
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Antonis" <antonisphoto@y...> wrote: > Colin, > > Lyson used to claim that their papers, though made by Hahnemuhle, > were coated with their own proprietary formula to be compatible > with their dyes. > Don't know if this is still true; don't know if it makes a difference > with pigments. But it's worth keeping in mind that this may not > be a simple rebranding as with other variants of the H. papers. > > > Antonis > Jim, John and Antonis Thank you, Jim, for your answer. I had thought it likely but wasn't sure. Antonis raised the long known confusion as to the coatings on their branded paper and if it is different but laid on Hahnemuhle stock. Do you know, Jim, what the reality is? My understanding is that the Lyson Standard Fine Art has been linked to German Etching. Thanks for your help, Colin
2004-08-30 by Jim Doyle
Colin & The Rest Of The Gang, If The Paper Is Coated On Both Sides Its Photo Rag Duo..Thats The Only paper That They Coat On Both Sides.. Thats Why I Made That Statement.. But If Its Coated On One Side and Is The Lyson Standard Fine Art Paper: A smooth surfaced Acid free WaterColor paper. Warm white or cream in appearance. 310gsm / up to 2880dpi Compatible with dye and pigment based inks Also available in all common US sizes Its Geman Etching.. I Think That This May Help..Have a Great Monday To all.. Cheers Fellows Jim Doyle J.Doyle Enterprises L.L.C. 114 Old Orchard Rd. Cherry Hill, NJ 08003 856-424-8660 http://www.shadesofpaper.com
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From: colingruk [mailto:colin.conway@...]
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 8:10 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Lyson Smooth Fine Art Was No Subject
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Antonis"
<antonisphoto@y...> wrote:
> Colin,
>
> Lyson used to claim that their papers, though made by Hahnemuhle,
> were coated with their own proprietary formula to be compatible
> with their dyes.
> Don't know if this is still true; don't know if it makes a
difference
> with pigments. But it's worth keeping in mind that this may not
> be a simple rebranding as with other variants of the H. papers.
>
>
> Antonis
>
Jim, John and Antonis
Thank you, Jim, for your answer. I had thought it likely but wasn't
sure. Antonis raised the long known confusion as to the coatings on
their branded paper and if it is different but laid on Hahnemuhle
stock. Do you know, Jim, what the reality is?
My understanding is that the Lyson Standard Fine Art has been linked
to German Etching.
Thanks for your help,
Colin
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2004-08-31 by colingruk
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Doyle" <jdoyle1713@c...> wrote: > Colin & The Rest Of The Gang, > > If The Paper Is Coated On Both Sides Its Photo Rag Duo..Thats The Only paper > That They Coat On Both Sides.. > Thats Why I Made That Statement.. > > But If Its Coated On One Side and Is The > Lyson Standard Fine Art Paper: A smooth surfaced Acid free WaterColor paper. > Warm white or cream in appearance. > 310gsm / up to 2880dpi > Compatible with dye and pigment based inks > Also available in all common US sizes > Its Geman Etching.. > > > I Think That This May Help..Have a Great Monday To all.. > > Cheers Fellows > Jim Doyle > > J.Doyle Enterprises L.L.C. > 114 Old Orchard Rd. > Cherry Hill, NJ 08003 > 856-424-8660 > http://www.shadesofpaper.com > Thanks, Jim, The paper I enquired about was the Lyson "Smooth" and is double sided. I have yet to use it and will keep it until I have a need for DS paper. I have a few sheets left of the Lyson "Standard", the first box I bought about three years ago. I did not like the texture and switched to Photorag. However I printed a sheet the other day using UT2 Dark sepia faded to 50 % and it suited that image fine although it was very different from what I saw on screen, apart from the hue I mean! I may have to resurrect my Piezo and try again on my 1160 for B&W as I have a few sheets left. Thanks for your help. Colin