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2004-10-21 by peterzakos
When using photoshop CS, in what format should I edit and save high bit, multilayered image files; TIFF or photoshop? Is there a difference in file size, speed/efficiency? I realize that this may be a bit off-topic for this forum but I would much appreciate your opinions. Mine is a 'closed-loop' system where I do all of the B&W scanning and printing. Thanks, Peter.
2004-10-21 by Mark Savoia
I would suggest TIFF LZW compressed. Even though you use a "closed loop" theory you can give this file type to just about anyone and they can open it with the simplest application. Mark On Oct 21, 2004, at 3:40 PM, peterzakos wrote: > > When using photoshop CS, in what format should I edit and save high > bit, multilayered image files; TIFF or photoshop?� Is there a > difference in file size, speed/efficiency?� I realize that this may > be a bit off-topic for this forum but I would much appreciate your > opinions.� Mine is a 'closed-loop' system where I do all of the B&W > scanning and printing. > Thanks, Peter. > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� > AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE� �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > <lrec_companion_043004.gif> > <image.tiff> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > � To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > � > � To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > � > � Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-10-22 by Bob Michaels
I suggest always saving Unflattened PSD files. Disk space is dirt cheap and you never know when you want to go back and tweak a file. Once you save it as a TIF and close the original PSD file, that option is gone forever. It only takes seconds to flatten and sharpen a fle for printing then close the file without saving. And just starting over one time to change a file takes way more time that you could ever save. I also suggest saving the original scan file as a TIF. Like I said, disk space is cheap and it's nice not to ever have to rescan. Bob Michaels --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "peterzakos" <peterzakos@y...> wrote:
> > When using photoshop CS, in what format should I edit and save high > bit, multilayered image files; TIFF or photoshop? Is there a > difference in file size, speed/efficiency? I realize that this may > be a bit off-topic for this forum but I would much appreciate your > opinions. Mine is a 'closed-loop' system where I do all of the B&W > scanning and printing. > Thanks, Peter.
2004-10-22 by john dean
Doesn't LZW compresson actually corrupt data in the extremes by throwing pixels away to reduce file size? Layerd Tiffs do take up a lot of space but I didn't know there was anyway around that. john --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@c...> wrote:
> I would suggest TIFF LZW compressed. Even though you use a "closed > loop" theory you can give this file type to just about anyone and they > can open it with the simplest application. > Mark > > On Oct 21, 2004, at 3:40 PM, peterzakos wrote: > > > > > When using photoshop CS, in what format should I edit and save high > > bit, multilayered image files; TIFF or photoshop? Is there a > > difference in file size, speed/efficiency? I realize that this may > > be a bit off-topic for this forum but I would much appreciate your > > opinions. Mine is a 'closed-loop' system where I do all of the B&W > > scanning and printing. > > Thanks, Peter. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > > resources as they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > > this same page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > > keep them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > > the membership without notice. > > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > > removed from the membership. > > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > > Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the > > Files section: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" > > AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > <lrec_companion_043004.gif> > > <image.tiff> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-10-22 by Mark Savoia
LZW is lossless. I have been using it for years. Mark On Oct 22, 2004, at 9:38 AM, john dean wrote: > > > Doesn't LZW compresson actually corrupt data in the extremes by > throwing pixels away to > reduce file size? > Layerd Tiffs do take up a lot of space but I didn't know there was > anyway around that. > > john > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia > <mark@c...> wrote: > > I would suggest TIFF LZW compressed. Even though you use a "closed > > loop" theory you can give this file type to just about anyone and > they > > can open it with the simplest application. > > Mark > > > > On Oct 21, 2004, at 3:40 PM, peterzakos wrote: > > > > > > > >� When using photoshop CS, in what format should I edit and save > high > > >� bit, multilayered image files; TIFF or photoshop?� Is there a > > >� difference in file size, speed/efficiency?� I realize that this > may > > >� be a bit off-topic for this forum but I would much appreciate > your > > >� opinions.� Mine is a 'closed-loop' system where I do all of the > B&W > > >� scanning and printing. > > >� Thanks, Peter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > > > resources as they are often being updated. > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > > >� If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish > > > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting > > > this same page. > > > > > >� Please follow these basic guidelines: > > >� - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier > messages to > > > keep them short. > > >� - Good manners are required at all time. 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