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windows without borders?

2001-11-03 by Todd Flashner

As an aid while I image edit, I'd like to be able to have a file of a step
wedge open on my desktop that I can lay over an image while I manipulate it,
so as to better judge where some of the tones in my image are falling. My
only beef with what I'm able to do so far is that the image is contained
inside of the typical OS window, with it's scroll arrows, et al, (made worse
in PS with it's mag view percentage and document info etc,). Is there an
application (I'm on a Mac BTW) which will allow me to have this file open
without it being bounded by the gray of a window? I want to be able to butt
the tones of the two files up against each other without some intermediary
tone of a window's border between them.

One thing I thought of was that I could create it as a PS document that I
can drag into each image as a layer, but that just seems like overkill, to
have to actually add it into every file, and worry about compatible
resolutions and file modes, etc. I'd really prefer to have it just open on
the desktop to be shoved around as needed.

So far Apple Picture Viewer has the smallest window borders, but is there
any way to eliminate them altogether?

Todd

Re: [Digital BW] windows without borders?

2001-11-03 by Carolyn Frayn

I've not heard of a way to rid yourself of the window borders but when I
have a PS file I want to access for use in other PS files I keep a copy on
the desktop, then while in PS I drag it to my open working file, put it on
the top layer like you mentioned and if required make my canvas bigger to
accomodate it's movement.  The resolution differences won't matter, the size
of the wedge will just change with the various resolutions of your file.
File modes shouldn't be a concern if you are using a consistent working
space.

If you are using a wedge open in a different app (like picture viewer), then
you'd worry about working space compatibilities... as far as I know app's
like picture viewer don't use the embedded profile for viewing accuracy...
it's like soft proofing in PS using your monitor profile.

Not much help,
Carolyn
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> 
> As an aid while I image edit, I'd like to be able to have a file of a step
> wedge open on my desktop that I can lay over an image while I manipulate it,
> so as to better judge where some of the tones in my image are falling. My
> only beef with what I'm able to do so far is that the image is contained
> inside of the typical OS window, with it's scroll arrows, et al, (made worse
> in PS with it's mag view percentage and document info etc,). Is there an
> application (I'm on a Mac BTW) which will allow me to have this file open
> without it being bounded by the gray of a window? I want to be able to butt
> the tones of the two files up against each other without some intermediary
> tone of a window's border between them.
> 
> One thing I thought of was that I could create it as a PS document that I
> can drag into each image as a layer, but that just seems like overkill, to
> have to actually add it into every file, and worry about compatible
> resolutions and file modes, etc. I'd really prefer to have it just open on
> the desktop to be shoved around as needed.
> 
> So far Apple Picture Viewer has the smallest window borders, but is there
> any way to eliminate them altogether?
> 
> Todd

Re: [Digital BW] windows without borders?

2001-11-03 by Todd Flashner

> Not much help

Not so, good help. You make a great case against Picture Viewer. That's one
less thing to confuse me!

Todd
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> I've not heard of a way to rid yourself of the window borders but when I
> have a PS file I want to access for use in other PS files I keep a copy on
> the desktop, then while in PS I drag it to my open working file, put it on
> the top layer like you mentioned and if required make my canvas bigger to
> accomodate it's movement.  The resolution differences won't matter, the size
> of the wedge will just change with the various resolutions of your file.
> File modes shouldn't be a concern if you are using a consistent working
> space.
> 
> If you are using a wedge open in a different app (like picture viewer), then
> you'd worry about working space compatibilities... as far as I know app's
> like picture viewer don't use the embedded profile for viewing accuracy...
> it's like soft proofing in PS using your monitor profile.
> 
> Not much help,
> Carolyn
> 
> 
>> 
>> As an aid while I image edit, I'd like to be able to have a file of a step
>> wedge open on my desktop that I can lay over an image while I manipulate it,
>> so as to better judge where some of the tones in my image are falling. My
>> only beef with what I'm able to do so far is that the image is contained
>> inside of the typical OS window, with it's scroll arrows, et al, (made worse
>> in PS with it's mag view percentage and document info etc,). Is there an
>> application (I'm on a Mac BTW) which will allow me to have this file open
>> without it being bounded by the gray of a window? I want to be able to butt
>> the tones of the two files up against each other without some intermediary
>> tone of a window's border between them.
>> 
>> One thing I thought of was that I could create it as a PS document that I
>> can drag into each image as a layer, but that just seems like overkill, to
>> have to actually add it into every file, and worry about compatible
>> resolutions and file modes, etc. I'd really prefer to have it just open on
>> the desktop to be shoved around as needed.
>> 
>> So far Apple Picture Viewer has the smallest window borders, but is there
>> any way to eliminate them altogether?
>> 
>> Todd
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Re: [Digital BW] windows without borders?

2001-11-03 by Mark Tucker

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner 
<tflash@e...> wrote:

What about making your entire desktop background a grey 
wedge? Do windows people call it "wallpaper"? I think Mac calls 
it Desktop Picture.

You'd just create a grey wedge that's the pixel dimensions of 
your monitor (1024x768, etc) and then paste it as 
wallpaper/picture.

Would that work?

Re: [Digital BW] windows without borders?

2001-11-03 by Bill Morse

Right, but the desktop can't sit on top of the PS image.  [sigh]

Actually, I think the best idea in fact is to put it as a separate layer-
you could have a step wedge file open, and an action that would copy it into
whatever file you are working on, but you might have to scale it to the size
of your working file.  BTW, if you scale a step wedge, do it with nearest
neighbor, not averaging, as that way the borders between the steps will be
crisp, not blurred.

Anyway, its a great idea, one I'll use.

Thanks

Bill

on 11/3/01 9:47 AM, Mark Tucker wrote:

What about making your entire desktop background a grey
wedge? Do windows people call it "wallpaper"? I think Mac calls
it Desktop Picture.

You'd just create a grey wedge that's the pixel dimensions of
your monitor (1024x768, etc) and then paste it as
wallpaper/picture.

Would that work?




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