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QTR and 4000 Problem

2004-11-13 by Herring/Sanders

I'm trying to print 20 sets of 29 images that the client wants 
yesterday, but I'm have a random problem that's driving me crazy.
I'm printing to an Epson 4000 with QTR 2.1 thru OS10.3.5. Every once in 
while for no apparent reason it will print about 2/3 to 3/4 of an image 
then stop, back the paper up to the top of the page and start over. The 
paper I'm using is rather thin, so backing it up wrinkles it and causes 
a paper jam which precludes anymore printing until I deal with it. I 
had hoped to queue up a bunch of images and let it print over night but 
now it needs to be baby sat which is slowing everything down to a 
crawl.
Any ideas on what might be causing this? It's not the paper because 
it's done it with EEM as well. Is it a printer problem?  Is it a QTR 
problem? Or does the problem lie somewhere between the keyboard and the 
chair?
Any thoughts on what I might do short of shooting myself?
-Alan

Re: QTR and 4000 Problem

2004-11-13 by aaltenmueller

Two days ago I had the same problem on a 7600, so it must be either QTR or the OS10.3.5
which causes it.
My next attempt to print the image was ok.

Andreas


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Herring/Sanders 
<alaneileen@v...> wrote:
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> I'm trying to print 20 sets of 29 images that the client wants 
> yesterday, but I'm have a random problem that's driving me crazy.
> I'm printing to an Epson 4000 with QTR 2.1 thru OS10.3.5. Every once in 
> while for no apparent reason it will print about 2/3 to 3/4 of an image 
> then stop, back the paper up to the top of the page and start over. The 
> paper I'm using is rather thin, so backing it up wrinkles it and causes 
> a paper jam which precludes anymore printing until I deal with it. I 
> had hoped to queue up a bunch of images and let it print over night but 
> now it needs to be baby sat which is slowing everything down to a 
> crawl.
> Any ideas on what might be causing this? It's not the paper because 
> it's done it with EEM as well. Is it a printer problem?  Is it a QTR 
> problem? Or does the problem lie somewhere between the keyboard and the 
> chair?
> Any thoughts on what I might do short of shooting myself?
> -Alan

Re: [Digital BW] Re: QTR and 4000 Problem

2004-11-13 by Herring/Sanders

My experience has been the same. I reprint the same image and all is 
well until the Gods of Randomness take over and it happens again.
I just had a thought: I wonder if updating to OS10.3.6 would make a 
difference? I might try it and see what happens.
-Alan

On Nov 13, 2004, at 1:24 PM, aaltenmueller wrote:

>
>  Two days ago I had the same problem on a 7600, so it must be either 
> QTR or the OS10.3.5
>  which causes it.
>  My next attempt to print the image was ok.
>
>  Andreas
>
>
>  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Herring/Sanders
>  <alaneileen@v...> wrote:
>  > I'm trying to print 20 sets of 29 images that the client wants
>  > yesterday, but I'm have a random problem that's driving me crazy.
>  > I'm printing to an Epson 4000 with QTR 2.1 thru OS10.3.5. Every 
> once in
>  > while for no apparent reason it will print about 2/3 to 3/4 of an 
> image
>  > then stop, back the paper up to the top of the page and start over. 
> The
>  > paper I'm using is rather thin, so backing it up wrinkles it and 
> causes
>  > a paper jam which precludes anymore printing until I deal with it. I
>  > had hoped to queue up a bunch of images and let it print over night 
> but
>  > now it needs to be baby sat which is slowing everything down to a
>  > crawl.
>  > Any ideas on what might be causing this? It's not the paper because
>  > it's done it with EEM as well. Is it a printer problem?� Is it a QTR
>  > problem? Or does the problem lie somewhere between the keyboard and 
> the
>  > chair?
>  > Any thoughts on what I might do short of shooting myself?
>  > -Alan
>
>
>
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[Digital BW] Re: QTR and 4000 Problem

2004-11-14 by Roy Harrington

There's been a couple of reports of strange things happening on the 4000.  It seems
to be very intermitent -- it works correctly immediately after.  One person said
it happened after using the Epson driver for a color print.  I'd like to come up
with a scenario so I can duplicate the problem.  So if this happens note anything
different you've done with the printer -- eg. Epson driver, other drivers, nozzle
checks, cleaning, cancelling a print, first print after rebooting.  
Whatever sequence might be correlated with the problem is useful to know.  My
suspicion is that printer is somehow in a state where it isn't handling the 
normal sequence of commands.

Please email me with any info you may have I hope to see some pattern in how
this happens.

Thanks,
Roy

quadtone at harrington dot com





--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Herring/Sanders 
<alaneileen@v...> wrote:
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> My experience has been the same. I reprint the same image and all is 
> well until the Gods of Randomness take over and it happens again.
> I just had a thought: I wonder if updating to OS10.3.6 would make a 
> difference? I might try it and see what happens.
> -Alan
> 
> On Nov 13, 2004, at 1:24 PM, aaltenmueller wrote:
> 
> >
> >  Two days ago I had the same problem on a 7600, so it must be either 
> > QTR or the OS10.3.5
> >  which causes it.
> >  My next attempt to print the image was ok.
> >
> >  Andreas
> >
> >
> >  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Herring/Sanders
> >  <alaneileen@v...> wrote:
> >  > I'm trying to print 20 sets of 29 images that the client wants
> >  > yesterday, but I'm have a random problem that's driving me crazy.
> >  > I'm printing to an Epson 4000 with QTR 2.1 thru OS10.3.5. Every 
> > once in
> >  > while for no apparent reason it will print about 2/3 to 3/4 of an 
> > image
> >  > then stop, back the paper up to the top of the page and start over. 
> > The
> >  > paper I'm using is rather thin, so backing it up wrinkles it and 
> > causes
> >  > a paper jam which precludes anymore printing until I deal with it. I
> >  > had hoped to queue up a bunch of images and let it print over night 
> > but
> >  > now it needs to be baby sat which is slowing everything down to a
> >  > crawl.
> >  > Any ideas on what might be causing this? It's not the paper because
> >  > it's done it with EEM as well. Is it a printer problem?  Is it a QTR
> >  > problem? Or does the problem lie somewhere between the keyboard and 
> > the
> >  > chair?
> >  > Any thoughts on what I might do short of shooting myself?
> >  > -Alan
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: QTR and 4000 Problem

2004-11-14 by Herring/Sanders

Roy, thanx for responding.
My scenario is; I'll send anywhere from 5 to 20 copies of an image to 
the queue and it might exhibit this behavior on the first one or it 
might be somewhere in the middle or not at all. Or, I might send 
multiple copies of several images to the queue and have one or more 
images print just fine and then somewhere down the road one will screw 
up. I haven't been using the Epson driver much on that printer lately. 
The current project that is causing me a lot of grief has been QTR 
exclusively. (The good news is that the prints look great!)  I have 
been using the Epson driver to print to a 7600 simultaneously but I 
can't imagine that would have any effect. I'm not sure, but I think 
I've only seen this when I've sent multiple copies of an image to the 
queue.
I'll make an effort to take good notes of what is going on right before 
this happens.
Thanx,
-Alan

On Nov 13, 2004, at 5:26 PM, Roy Harrington wrote:

>
>
>  There's been a couple of reports of strange things happening on the 
> 4000.� It seems
>  to be very intermitent -- it works correctly immediately after.� One 
> person said
>  it happened after using the Epson driver for a color print.� I'd like 
> to come up
>  with a scenario so I can duplicate the problem.� So if this happens 
> note anything
>  different you've done with the printer -- eg. Epson driver, other 
> drivers, nozzle
>  checks, cleaning, cancelling a print, first print after rebooting.�
>  Whatever sequence might be correlated with the problem is useful to 
> know.� My
>  suspicion is that printer is somehow in a state where it isn't 
> handling the
>  normal sequence of commands.
>
>  Please email me with any info you may have I hope to see some pattern 
> in how
>  this happens.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Roy
>
>  quadtone at harrington dot com
>
>
>
>
>
>  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Herring/Sanders
>  <alaneileen@v...> wrote:
>  > My experience has been the same. I reprint the same image and all is
>  > well until the Gods of Randomness take over and it happens again.
>  > I just had a thought: I wonder if updating to OS10.3.6 would make a
>  > difference? I might try it and see what happens.
>  > -Alan
>  >
>  > On Nov 13, 2004, at 1:24 PM, aaltenmueller wrote:
>  >
>  > >
>  > >� Two days ago I had the same problem on a 7600, so it must be 
> either
>  > > QTR or the OS10.3.5
>  > >� which causes it.
>  > >� My next attempt to print the image was ok.
>  > >
>  > >� Andreas
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >� --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
> Herring/Sanders
>  > >� <alaneileen@v...> wrote:
>  > >� > I'm trying to print 20 sets of 29 images that the client wants
>  > >� > yesterday, but I'm have a random problem that's driving me 
> crazy.
>  > >� > I'm printing to an Epson 4000 with QTR 2.1 thru OS10.3.5. Every
>  > > once in
>  > >� > while for no apparent reason it will print about 2/3 to 3/4 of 
> an
>  > > image
>  > >� > then stop, back the paper up to the top of the page and start 
> over.
>  > > The
>  > >� > paper I'm using is rather thin, so backing it up wrinkles it 
> and
>  > > causes
>  > >� > a paper jam which precludes anymore printing until I deal with 
> it. I
>  > >� > had hoped to queue up a bunch of images and let it print over 
> night
>  > > but
>  > >� > now it needs to be baby sat which is slowing everything down 
> to a
>  > >� > crawl.
>  > >� > Any ideas on what might be causing this? It's not the paper 
> because
>  > >� > it's done it with EEM as well. Is it a printer problem?� Is it 
> a QTR
>  > >� > problem? Or does the problem lie somewhere between the 
> keyboard and
>  > > the
>  > >� > chair?
>  > >� > Any thoughts on what I might do short of shooting myself?
>  > >� > -Alan
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
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>  > > resources as they are often being updated.
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