Digital BW, The Print

I am on a WIN XP Home machine with an Epson 1270 printer. I have 
installed beta 3 of QTR and the latest QTR 3.44 GUI interface, 
created a shared printer, and created the windows looped feedback 
adapter since I am not on a networked printer. When I open QTR GUI, 
I get the following message "No printer definitions found. Be sure 
QTR GUI is installed in the same folder as QTR." As near as I can 
tell I have saved QTR to the default location in Program Files and 
QTR GUI is a folder nested within a QTR folder called "bin". The ppd 
folder, model, and quadtone folders appear empty within the QTR 
folder. Any suggestions? Also, within QTRGUI the field of "printing 
models" is not populated even though within the "names" field the 
printers I have installed are listed. I also installed the curves 
for the UT2 inks for the 1270 but I am not sure they are installed 
in the right location. Thank you for your help, J.

Beta 3 of QTR has a separate install batch file for the printer than the
engine. Did you do both installs?

-Stephen
 www.sbillard.org/Stephen

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jarrrush [mailto:johnr@...] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 3:46 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] QTR and QTR GUI Install Issue
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I am on a WIN XP Home machine with an Epson 1270 printer. I have 
> installed beta 3 of QTR and the latest QTR 3.44 GUI interface, 
> created a shared printer, and created the windows looped feedback 
> adapter since I am not on a networked printer. When I open QTR GUI, 
> I get the following message "No printer definitions found. Be sure 
> QTR GUI is installed in the same folder as QTR." As near as I can 
> tell I have saved QTR to the default location in Program Files and 
> QTR GUI is a folder nested within a QTR folder called "bin". The ppd 
> folder, model, and quadtone folders appear empty within the QTR 
> folder. Any suggestions? Also, within QTRGUI the field of "printing 
> models" is not populated even though within the "names" field the 
> printers I have installed are listed. I also installed the curves 
> for the UT2 inks for the 1270 but I am not sure they are installed 
> in the right location. Thank you for your help, J.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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I downloaded a file called quadtonepcbeta3.zip, did the install  and 
then installed QTRGui. I next downloaded the 1270-UT2-PC.zip profile 
and installed the files.

Could the error be because of pulling this down after the QTR Gui 
install? Again, I am not sure where the 1270 files should be located 
after downloaded.

Thank you,
J
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen 
Billard" <stephen@s...> wrote:
> Beta 3 of QTR has a separate install batch file for the printer 
than the
> engine. Did you do both installs?
> 
> -Stephen
>  www.sbillard.org/Stephen
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jarrrush [mailto:johnr@v...] 
> > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 3:46 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] QTR and QTR GUI Install Issue
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I am on a WIN XP Home machine with an Epson 1270 printer. I have 
> > installed beta 3 of QTR and the latest QTR 3.44 GUI interface, 
> > created a shared printer, and created the windows looped feedback 
> > adapter since I am not on a networked printer. When I open QTR 
GUI, 
> > I get the following message "No printer definitions found. Be 
sure 
> > QTR GUI is installed in the same folder as QTR." As near as I can 
> > tell I have saved QTR to the default location in Program Files 
and 
> > QTR GUI is a folder nested within a QTR folder called "bin". The 
ppd 
> > folder, model, and quadtone folders appear empty within the QTR 
> > folder. Any suggestions? Also, within QTRGUI the field 
of "printing 
> > models" is not populated even though within the "names" field the 
> > printers I have installed are listed. I also installed the curves 
> > for the UT2 inks for the 1270 but I am not sure they are 
installed 

> > in the right location. Thank you for your help, J.
> > 
> >

Something went wrong when you installed the 1270-UTC-PC.zip files. That
Install1270 batch file should have populated a the QuadTone folder with a
folder named Quad1270 and placed the curves in that folder. It should also
have placed a file in the PPD folder named Quad1270.ppd.

QTRgui gets the items to populate its drop-downs from these folders. If they
are empty, the drop-downs will be empty.

-Stephen
 www.sbillard.org/Stephen

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jarrrush [mailto:johnr@...] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 1:03 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] QTR and QTR GUI Install Issue
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I downloaded a file called quadtonepcbeta3.zip, did the install  and 
> then installed QTRGui. I next downloaded the 1270-UT2-PC.zip profile 
> and installed the files.
> 
> Could the error be because of pulling this down after the QTR Gui 
> install? Again, I am not sure where the 1270 files should be located 
> after downloaded.
> 
> Thank you,
> J
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen 
> Billard" <stephen@s...> wrote:
> > Beta 3 of QTR has a separate install batch file for the printer
> than the
> > engine. Did you do both installs?
> > 
> > -Stephen
> >  www.sbillard.org/Stephen
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jarrrush [mailto:johnr@v...]
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 3:46 AM
> > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Digital BW] QTR and QTR GUI Install Issue
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I am on a WIN XP Home machine with an Epson 1270 printer. I have
> > > installed beta 3 of QTR and the latest QTR 3.44 GUI interface, 
> > > created a shared printer, and created the windows looped feedback 
> > > adapter since I am not on a networked printer. When I open QTR 
> GUI, 
> > > I get the following message "No printer definitions found. Be
> sure 
> > > QTR GUI is installed in the same folder as QTR." As near as I can
> > > tell I have saved QTR to the default location in Program Files 
> and 
> > > QTR GUI is a folder nested within a QTR folder called "bin". The
> ppd 
> > > folder, model, and quadtone folders appear empty within the QTR
> > > folder. Any suggestions? Also, within QTRGUI the field 
> of "printing 
> > > models" is not populated even though within the "names" field the
> > > printers I have installed are listed. I also installed the curves 
> > > for the UT2 inks for the 1270 but I am not sure they are 
> installed 
> > > in the right location. Thank you for your help, J.
> > > 
> > > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Thank you for the help.  The printer profiles are now installed in 
the correct location and the printer is producing output, yet it 
looks terrible and I am sure it is due to some mis-step in my set-
up. I have tested by printing the same  image from QTRGUI and 
directly from QTR and the output is the same - the image is blurry, 
choppy, almost indistinguishable from the original image. It also 
places the image along the bottom edge of the letter size page, even 
when I select center image in QTRGUI.When I print from Photoshop 
through the Epson driver directly, the output is fine. It is a 
grayscale .tif in 8 bit. I have included the lines from QTR DOS when 
I print the image. One line mentions that a network connection can 
not be found on LPT3 - this is where I have my loopback adapter. Is 
this the issue? Checking the status of it, it staes that it has 
limited or no connectivity. Again, it is a WIN XP Home machine. Any 
help is appreciated --

 
>set FILE="C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My 
Pictures\My Pictures
\J 2004 11 06 Halloween-Montshire\Jason Car 2.tif"
>set PRINTER=Quad1280
>set PAGE=Letter
>set TOP=
>set LEFT=
>set CURVE1=UT2-EEnhMatte-neutral-2
>set CURVE2=UT2-EEnhMatte-carbon-2
>set BLEND=90
>set PRINTERHOST=
>set RES=1440x720hq2
>cmd /c "C:\Program Files\QuadToneRIP\bin\quadtoneprint"
>if NOT DEFINED PRINTER (goto badprinter )
>if NOT DEFINED FILE (goto badfile )
>if NOT EXIST "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My 
Pictures\My Pict
ures\J 2004 11 06 Halloween-Montshire\Jason Car 2.tif" (goto 
badfile )
>set QTR=C:\Program Files\QuadToneRIP\quadtone\Quad1280
>if NOT EXIST "C:\Program Files\QuadToneRIP\quadtone\Quad1280\UT2-
EEnhMatte-neut
ral-2.quad". (goto badcurve )
>if DEFINED CURVE2 (if NOT EXIST "C:\Program 
Files\QuadToneRIP\quadtone\Quad1280
\UT2-EEnhMatte-carbon-2.quad". (goto badcurve ) )
>if xLetter == x (
set /P PW=Enter Page Width:
 set /P PL=Enter Page Length:
)
>if xLetter == x (set PAGE=Custom.xin  )
>set SETSIZE=PageSize=Letter
>if x == xlandscape (set SETORI=landscape=yes )
>set SETPOS=position=center
>if not x == x (set SETTOP=topmargin= )
>if not x == x (set SETLEFT=leftmargin= )
>if x == x (set PRINTERHOST=RUSH )
>if "x" == "x" (set SHARENAME=Quad1280 )
>set PPD=Quad1280.ppd
>set PAPER=Matte
>set OPT1=PageSize=Letter position=center
>set OPT2=PPD=Quad1280.ppd PRINTER=Quad1280 MediaType=Matte 
Resolution=1440x720h
q2
>set OPT3=stpImageType=Continuous stpDither=Ordered ColorModel=QTRIP
>set OPT4=ripCurve1=UT2-EEnhMatte-neutral-2 ripCurve2=UT2-EEnhMatte-
carbon-2 rip
Blend=90
>set OPT5=
>set OPTALL=PageSize=Letter position=center    PPD=Quad1280.ppd 
PRINTER=Quad1280
 MediaType=Matte Resolution=1440x720hq2 stpImageType=Continuous 
stpDither=Ordere
d ColorModel=QTRIP ripCurve1=UT2-EEnhMatte-neutral-2 ripCurve2=UT2-
EEnhMatte-car
bon-2 ripBlend=90
>set Path=C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32
\Wbem;C:\Program Fil
es\QuadToneRIP\bin
>set LogPath=C:\Program Files\QuadToneRIP
>net use LPT3 /delete
The network connection could not be found.
More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 2250.
>net use LPT3: "\\RUSH\Quad1280"
The command completed successfully.
>imagetoraster 1 1 1 1 "PageSize=Letter position=center    
PPD=Quad1280.ppd PRIN
TER=Quad1280 MediaType=Matte Resolution=1440x720hq2 
stpImageType=Continuous stpD
ither=Ordered ColorModel=QTRIP ripCurve1=UT2-EEnhMatte-neutral-2 
ripCurve2=UT2-E
EnhMatte-carbon-2 ripBlend=90 " "C:\Documents and Settings\All 
Users\Documents\M
y Pictures\My Pictures\J 2004 11 06 Halloween-Montshire\Jason Car 
2.tif"   2>"C:
\Program Files\QuadToneRIP\QTRLOG1.TXT"  | quadtoprinter 1 1 1 
1 "PageSize=Lette
r position=center    PPD=Quad1280.ppd PRINTER=Quad1280 
MediaType=Matte Resolutio
n=1440x720hq2 stpImageType=Continuous stpDither=Ordered 
ColorModel=QTRIP ripCurv
e1=UT2-EEnhMatte-neutral-2 ripCurve2=UT2-EEnhMatte-carbon-2 
ripBlend=90 "  1>LPT
3 2>"C:\Program Files\QuadToneRIP\QTRLOG2.TXT"
>net use LPT3 /delete
LPT3 was deleted successfully.
>goto done
>pause
Press any key to continue . . .

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen 
Billard" <stephen@s...> wrote:
> Something went wrong when you installed the 1270-UTC-PC.zip files. 
That
> Install1270 batch file should have populated a the QuadTone folder 
with a
> folder named Quad1270 and placed the curves in that folder. It 
should also
> have placed a file in the PPD folder named Quad1270.ppd.
> 
> QTRgui gets the items to populate its drop-downs from these 
folders. If they
> are empty, the drop-downs will be empty.
> 
> -Stephen
>  www.sbillard.org/Stephen

snip

> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: jarrrush [mailto:johnr@v...]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 3:46 AM
> > > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [Digital BW] QTR and QTR GUI Install Issue
>> > > > I am on a WIN XP Home machine with an Epson 1270 printer. I 
have
> > > > installed beta 3 of QTR and the latest QTR 3.44 GUI 
interface, 
> > > > created a shared printer, and created the windows looped 
feedback 
> > > > adapter since I am not on a networked printer. When I open 
QTR 

> > GUI, 
> > > > I get the following message "No printer definitions found. Be
> > sure 
> > > >