Re: [Digital BW] Tonal ranges, etc.
2004-11-23 by B. Campbell
>ALL negative films, with normal develpment contain far more information than >any paper can print without tonal compression. It's up to us to decide what >gets printed by way of tonal compression. Well of course I realize that negatives may contain more information than photographic papers can print and still retain detail in both highlights and shadows (which was why I said negatives can contain detail in zones as high as XIII and XIV) without minus development or split development or some other development technique to bring the highlights down so that they are within the range of the photographic paper. But the thrust of his message (with which I agreed) was that no special development methods were required when scanning and printing digitally. So that being the case, I just asked what he meant by saying that the highlights were "virtually undefined." No big deal, just a question about terminology.
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----- Original Message ----- From: <claudej1@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 3:41 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Tonal ranges, etc. In a message dated 11/23/2004 10:11:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com writes: > you can actually get up into Zones XIII or even XIV and > still see some tonal separation in the negative) and that textire and detail > can be brought out in the print without minus development when you scan and > print digitally. So why are the highlights "virtually undefined" in this > workflow? > ALL negative films, with normal develpment contain far more information than any paper can print without tonal compression. It's up to us to decide what gets printed by way of tonal compression. Claude [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links