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2004-12-13 by Peter O'Reilly
I've recently started mounting my digital prints (printed on Hahnemuhle 308 Photo Rag) using conservation mountboard for the mat and foam core board for the backing. I have heard T-hinges mentioned as the best way of mounting prints, but can't find any specific details of how they work. Could anybody point me to a link on the web which shows how they work? Thanks. Peter
2004-12-13 by Hogarth Hughes
http://www.loc.gov/preserv/care/mat.html -- Hogarth Hughes Peter O'Reilly wrote:
> > I've recently started mounting my digital prints (printed on > Hahnemuhle 308 Photo Rag) using conservation mountboard for the mat > and foam core board for the backing. > > I have heard T-hinges mentioned as the best way of mounting prints, > but can't find any specific details of how they work. > > Could anybody point me to a link on the web which shows how they > work? > > Thanks. > > Peter > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See \ufffdGroup Topic, Rules and Guidelines\ufffd in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd > AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* > ADVERTISEMENT > click here > <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129abq2v7/M=294855.5468653.6549235.3001176/D=groups/S=1705019182:HM/EXP=1102985452/A=2455396/R=0/SIG=119u9qmi7/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Yahoo! Groups Links* > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > >
2004-12-13 by John Kelly
I don't know the proper name for them, but museum curators and collectors use hinges for mounting ultra-valuable lithographs and other prints..they're translucent, yellowish, very thin paper with a very thin layer of adhesive that you can attach just by licking (unless you're a vegan). The adhesive is "hide glue" which, because it's very strong (it's used to assemble better-quality furniture and guitars, for example) means the hinges require only a very thin layer...yet, when you want to remove them (the biggest issue for print conservators), all you need is a faintly damp cloth or sponge. Frame shops, stationary stores, and art supply stores often stock them. Maybe there's a type that uses some other type of adhesive. Peter O'Reilly wrote:
> > I've recently started mounting my digital prints (printed on > Hahnemuhle 308 Photo Rag) using conservation mountboard for the mat > and foam core board for the backing. > > I have heard T-hinges mentioned as the best way of mounting prints, > but can't find any specific details of how they work. > > Could anybody point me to a link on the web which shows how they > work? > > Thanks. > > Peter > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See \ufffdGroup Topic, Rules and Guidelines\ufffd in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd > AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > *Yahoo! Groups Sponsor* > ADVERTISEMENT > click here > <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129abq2v7/M=294855.5468653.6549235.3001176/D=groups/S=1705019182:HM/EXP=1102985452/A=2455396/R=0/SIG=119u9qmi7/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Yahoo! Groups Links* > > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > >
2004-12-13 by mmackenzie@digitalheritage.ca
Okay, I can't speak for all art conservators but there is a bit more information I can give you on this. The material mentioned below is a decent product. However, for the most delicate/expensive originals and for more effective archival results we make use of starch pastes such as wheat or rice. Methyl cellulose paste which in some forms is known as "wall paper" past is used. This pretty much depends upon your training and philosophy of art conservation as well as what your clients want. The techniques are pretty much the same no matter which paste you use. I usually use methyl cellulose and occasionally an organic starch paste. The hinges are made from Japanese hand made papers of which you will need a selection. This is actually quite easy to do these days and with minimal money involved. May I suggest: Minokishi or Sekishu (heavier weights of paper) for use making large or thick paper supports; and the lighter Japanese papers such as Usugami or Kizuki-banshi to hold small or thin papers. Never, never cut these papers but use a water wetted artist's brush to draw a water only line where you wish to separate (cut) the Japanese tissue and then gently pull apart along this edge while wet. The resulting edge is fibrous and will give you an almost invisible edge to your mount. Tab hinging can be a Tee configuration or not, or a folded back under design depending upon your matting needs. I would recommend doing a Google for archival or art matting, hinging techniques. If you can't find that information contact me and I will try and help. I use hide glue almost exclusively when I conserve/restore antique or fine furniture. Only occasionally is a hide glue derivative used in my archival or flat art work. Such examples might be: rabbit skin glue, isinglass or fish glue. Special purpose for special jobs. The starch paste or methyl cellulose adhesives are best. Various suppliers have synthetic adhesives based on PVA, or other resins such as Mowolith which they sell for book binding and paper work. Suit your materials to your work. I hope that I have added some information and not confusion. Mark MacKenzie, M.A.C. Conservator, Western Development Museum Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada Original Message: -----------------
From: John Kelly jtk@channelsynergy.com Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 06:54:08 -0700 To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Mounting Digital Prints I don't know the proper name for them, but museum curators and collectors use hinges for mounting ultra-valuable lithographs and other prints..they're translucent, yellowish, very thin paper with a very thin layer of adhesive that you can attach just by licking (unless you're a vegan). The adhesive is "hide glue" which, because it's very strong (it's used to assemble better-quality furniture and guitars, for example) means the hinges require only a very thin layer...yet, when you want to remove them (the biggest issue for print conservators), all you need is a faintly damp cloth or sponge. Frame shops, stationary stores, and art supply stores often stock them. Maybe there's a type that uses some other type of adhesive. Peter O'Reilly wrote: > > I've recently started mounting my digital prints (printed on > Hahnemuhle 308 Photo Rag) using conservation mountboard for the mat > and foam core board for the backing. > > I have heard T-hinges mentioned as the best way of mounting prints, > but can't find any specific details of how they work. > > Could anybody point me to a link on the web which shows how they > work? > > Thanks. > > Peter > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
2004-12-13 by Hogarth Hughes
"Licking" ain't archval. The adhesive on most archival linen tapes is in fact rice glue, if memory serves. Hide glue is also not archval. The easiest to use is archval tyvek, which has a self adhesive backing (no water near your prints). Light Impressions (and others of course) sells both the old style archival linen tapes, and the newer tyvek tapes. Both work fine. -- Hogarth Hughes John Kelly wrote:
>I don't know the proper name for them, but museum curators and >collectors use hinges for mounting ultra-valuable lithographs and other >prints..they're translucent, yellowish, very thin paper with a very thin >layer of adhesive that you can attach just by licking (unless you're a >vegan). The adhesive is "hide glue" which, because it's very strong >(it's used to assemble better-quality furniture and guitars, for >example) means the hinges require only a very thin layer...yet, when you >want to remove them (the biggest issue for print conservators), all you >need is a faintly damp cloth or sponge. Frame shops, stationary stores, >and art supply stores often stock them. Maybe there's a type that uses >some other type of adhesive. > >Peter O'Reilly wrote: > > > >>I've recently started mounting my digital prints (printed on >>Hahnemuhle 308 Photo Rag) using conservation mountboard for the mat >>and foam core board for the backing. >> >>I have heard T-hinges mentioned as the best way of mounting prints, >>but can't find any specific details of how they work. >> >>Could anybody point me to a link on the web which shows how they >>work? >> >>Thanks. >> >>Peter >> >> >> >> >> >>Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other >>resources as they are often being updated. >> >>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint >> >>If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish >>to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting >>this same page. >> >>Please follow these basic guidelines: >>- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to >>keep them short. >>- Good manners are required at all time. 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2004-12-13 by Djon
Licking was standard for the past century or more, but if someone has evidence that it causes changes in prints over time, maybe they'll publish it... I'm not sure about the definition of "archival," and print curators aren't either. Photographers, tending f64, obsess on it. The MAIN reason to use those hinges is not their chemical constitution, which is inconsequential because they're well proven, rather it's their easy removability. A friend once bought a small Durer (mit umlaut) that had been mounted with double sided Scotch tape...quite a challenge removing the yellowing goo, but it turned his $7.50 flea market investment into a brand new framing shop and print gallery. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Hogarth Hughes <hogarth@s...> wrote: > "Licking" ain't archval. The adhesive on most archival linen tapes is in > fact rice glue, if memory serves. Hide glue is also not archval. The > easiest to use is archval tyvek, which has a self adhesive backing (no > water near your prints). Light Impressions (and others of course) sells > both the old style archival linen tapes, and the newer tyvek tapes. Both > work fine. > -- > Hogarth Hughes > > > John Kelly wrote: > > >I don't know the proper name for them, but museum curators and > >collectors use hinges for mounting ultra-valuable lithographs and other > >prints..they're translucent, yellowish, very thin paper with a very thin > >layer of adhesive that you can attach just by licking (unless you're a > >vegan). The adhesive is "hide glue" which, because it's very strong > >(it's used to assemble better-quality furniture and guitars, for > >example) means the hinges require only a very thin layer...yet, when you > >want to remove them (the biggest issue for print conservators), all you > >need is a faintly damp cloth or sponge. Frame shops, stationary stores, > >and art supply stores often stock them. Maybe there's a type that uses > >some other type of adhesive. > > > >Peter O'Reilly wrote: > > > > > > > >>I've recently started mounting my digital prints (printed on > >>Hahnemuhle 308 Photo Rag) using conservation mountboard for the mat > >>and foam core board for the backing. > >> > >>I have heard T-hinges mentioned as the best way of mounting prints, > >>but can't find any specific details of how they work. > >> > >>Could anybody point me to a link on the web which shows how they > >>work? > >> > >>Thanks. > >> > >>Peter > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > >>resources as they are often being updated. > >> > >>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > >> > >>If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > >>to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > >>this same page. > >> > >>Please follow these basic guidelines: > >>- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > >>keep them short. > >>- Good manners are required at all time. 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