Digital BW, The Print

Paul,
I'm looking to make prints with the C86 EZ carts to look like the 
warmtone Agfa Portriga.

Do you know of a combination of the various carts that might get me 
close?

I currently have the Neutral set, but I am getting ready to order 
pints (YEE HAW!) and re-fillable carts.

Thanks for any suggestions,


Scott

Scott,

I have the warm set of inks (CFS). Those combined with Ilford Galerie
Smooth Pearl with Paul's settings (brightness +8, contrast -10/15) give
prints that are slightly warmer than old Portriga prints I have. Now my
old Portriga Rapid prints have been selenium toned (35 years ago) so they
are slightly cooler than they were straight.

So I suspect that Paul's recommendations for getting neutral inks slightly
warmer (there were two suggestions I don't remember them off-hand. They're
easy to find on the MIS site and probably Paul's own site) ... anyway,
those combinations will get you very close to Portriga with this paper.

I think (but would have to check) that Epson Premium semi-gloss reacts
about the same way. I've only printed out a couple on it and that was in
the beginning, when I was getting the hang of all of this.

Daniel Ridings
http://www.dlridings.com/paw2004

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, scott_now_coming wrote:

>
>
>  Paul,
> I'm looking to make prints with the C86 EZ carts to look like the
> warmtone Agfa Portriga.
>
> Do you know of a combination of the various carts that might get me
> close?
>
> I currently have the Neutral set, but I am getting ready to order
> pints (YEE HAW!) and re-fillable carts.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions,
>
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
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Thanks Daniel.

I also came across this site concerning BO printing and he give some 
in-sight to paper-ink tones of the ones he has tried.

http://www.cjcom.net/articles/digiprn5.htm

Anyone wanting a "film look" should try BO printing and checking out 
that site.

The BO's I tried lastnight I REALLY liked, EXCEPT, I couldn't get ris 
of some "banding".


Thanks,

Scott


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Ridings 
<daniel.ridings@e...> wrote:
> Scott,
> 
> I have the warm set of inks (CFS). Those combined with Ilford 
Galerie
> Smooth Pearl with Paul's settings (brightness +8, contrast -10/15) 
give
> prints that are slightly warmer than old Portriga prints I have. 
Now my
> old Portriga Rapid prints have been selenium toned (35 years ago) 
so they
> are slightly cooler than they were straight.
> 
> So I suspect that Paul's recommendations for getting neutral inks 
slightly
> warmer (there were two suggestions I don't remember them off-hand. 
They're
> easy to find on the MIS site and probably Paul's own site) ... 
anyway,
> those combinations will get you very close to Portriga with this 
paper.
> 
> I think (but would have to check) that Epson Premium semi-gloss 
reacts
> about the same way. I've only printed out a couple on it and that 
was in
> the beginning, when I was getting the hang of all of this.
> 
> Daniel Ridings
> http://www.dlridings.com/paw2004
> 
> 
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, scott_now_coming wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >  Paul,
> > I'm looking to make prints with the C86 EZ carts to look like the
> > warmtone Agfa Portriga.
> >
> > Do you know of a combination of the various carts that might get 
me
> > close?
> >
> > I currently have the Neutral set, but I am getting ready to order
> > pints (YEE HAW!) and re-fillable carts.
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions,
> >
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other 
resources as they are often being updated.
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> >
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wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by 
visiting this same page.
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flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed 
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digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may 
be removed from the membership.
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SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT 
LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER 
INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL 
BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF 
SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE 
THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR 
ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT 
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