Digital BW, The Print

i typically print on Epson Premium Semi-Gloss with MIS FSN & PK, but 
am interested in trying Premium Semi-Matte.

 since it only comes in rolls that i'd have to cut, and can cost a 
bit, can anyone offer a comparison of the two? (D-max, brightness, 
finish, bronzing, longevity, etc....)

 can one use Photo K with it, or is Matte K or Eboni required?

 thanks
 evan

Evan,


> i typically print on Epson Premium Semi-Gloss with MIS FSN & PK, 
>but am interested in trying Premium Semi-Matte.

>...can anyone offer a comparison of the two? 

Looking the the test strips I recently did on the 7500 with the UT-FSN+
inkset, which uses a combined MIS PK and dark gray to generate the black
these the are relative results I see:

D-max -- Semimatte has the edge. 

Brightness -- The white C, M, Y, Visual Density readings are:
        PSM: .04, .03, .02, .04
        PSG: .06, .05, .03, .05
    So, Semigloss is a bit more cyan, but Semimatte is a bit brighter.
    Wilhelm claims PSG has no brighteners and PSM does.

Finish -- Semimatte has a finer-grained texture

Bronzing -- Semimatte wins. 
  
Longevity -- Wilhelm lists both as having a dark storage of ">200 years."
My acid test pen suggests PSG is more highly buffered inside.  The fade
results seem to generally favor PSG, but it depends on the conditions.  See
http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/SP4000.html 

Photo K is required for both papers.

Hope this helps.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

so is the Dmax basically the same on each paper?

 in real world applications (hanging on my wall), would i see any 
difference in the longevity?

  if i may ask paul, which one do you prefer?

 just trying to see if i want to spend $90-$100 on a roll, not 
knowing what to expect.

 
 i like a matte surface, but semi-gloss (on my 1280) is much shaper i 
think. (maybe it just "seems" that way due to the Dmax). i also 
prefer the brighter surface of the semi-gloss, not to mention the 
much deeper blacks. i've been using it pre UT/UC but HAD to spray it 
with Lyson print guard. 
 i guess i want my cake and eat it to.

  evan


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Evan,
> 
> 
> > i typically print on Epson Premium Semi-Gloss with MIS FSN & PK, 
> >but am interested in trying Premium Semi-Matte.
> 
> >...can anyone offer a comparison of the two? 
> 
> Looking the the test strips I recently did on the 7500 with the UT-
FSN+
> inkset, which uses a combined MIS PK and dark gray to generate the 
black
> these the are relative results I see:
> 
> D-max -- Semimatte has the edge. 
> 
> Brightness -- The white C, M, Y, Visual Density readings are:
>         PSM: .04, .03, .02, .04
>         PSG: .06, .05, .03, .05
>     So, Semigloss is a bit more cyan, but Semimatte is a bit 
brighter.
>     Wilhelm claims PSG has no brighteners and PSM does.
> 
> Finish -- Semimatte has a finer-grained texture
> 
> Bronzing -- Semimatte wins. 
>   
> Longevity -- Wilhelm lists both as having a dark storage of ">200 
years."
> My acid test pen suggests PSG is more highly buffered inside.  The 
fade
> results seem to generally favor PSG, but it depends on the 
conditions.  See

> http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/SP4000.html 
> 
> Photo K is required for both papers.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com

Evan,

>so is the Dmax basically the same on each paper?

It's a bit more on PSM, but after I spray them, both are fine.

> in real world applications (hanging on my wall), would i see any 
>difference in the longevity?

I have not tested it, but I doubt you'd see any difference.

>  if i may ask paul, which one do you prefer?

I like the lower bronzing of the PSM.  I like the lack of OBAs and perhaps
better lightfastness of the PSG.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Evan,
> 
> 
> > i typically print on Epson Premium Semi-Gloss with MIS FSN & PK, 
> >but am interested in trying Premium Semi-Matte.
> 
> >...can anyone offer a comparison of the two? 
> 
> Looking the the test strips I recently did on the 7500 with the UT-
FSN+
> inkset, which uses a combined MIS PK and dark gray to generate the 
black
> these the are relative results I see:
> 
> D-max -- Semimatte has the edge. 
> 
> Brightness -- The white C, M, Y, Visual Density readings are:
>         PSM: .04, .03, .02, .04
>         PSG: .06, .05, .03, .05
>     So, Semigloss is a bit more cyan, but Semimatte is a bit 
brighter.
>     Wilhelm claims PSG has no brighteners and PSM does.
> 
> Finish -- Semimatte has a finer-grained texture
> 
> Bronzing -- Semimatte wins. 
>   
> Longevity -- Wilhelm lists both as having a dark storage of ">200 
years."
> My acid test pen suggests PSG is more highly buffered inside.  The 
fade
> results seem to generally favor PSG, but it depends on the 
conditions.  See
> http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/SP4000.html 
> 
> Photo K is required for both papers.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com






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