Digital BW, The Print

Do these two papers print differently? In Paul's data, he states that Epson 
Glossy Photo Paper prints with NO bronzing. Is this also true of the Premium 
Glossy Paper? Is there a better glossy(ish) paper for use with the UT7 inkset? 

Also, what are peoples opinions of these papers as far as print quality and 
Dmax? I am printing with MIS UT7 inks. Should I be using the PK with glossy 
papers? Does the Epson PK provide better Dmax?

I've been (silver)printing for years on Ilford Gallerie paper
(typically grade 2 or 3), then dilute selenium toning for increased Dmax. That is 
the look I love: That is the standard I am trying to approach digitally. Am I 
completely dreaming and wasting my time?

I know all these issues have been covered here, but it's a little hard to decipher 
people's opinions as the info I'm seeking is so scattered, and the Yahoo 
Groups search engine leaves a lot to be desired(!).

Honestly, I'm feeling a little overwhelmed trying to get a handle on all this digital 
printing stuff. I feel like a gradeschooler in college!

Thanks much for any help.

Sincerely,
Guy Staley
Seattle, WA

If this is the same paper I am thinking of, Epson Glossy Photo Paper 
is rather weak, low gamut paper.  It is consumer level stuff you can 
buy at Staples, Office Depot, etc.  I don't like the stuff at all, 
whether it bronzes or not.  

Premium Glossy has very good gamut, good Dmax and gives great outupt, 
but does exhibit bronzing with UC inks.  Spraying it and/or mounting 
it behind glass generally solves the problem.  These papers aren't in 
the same league.

You can try Kirkland Pro Glossy Photo Paper from Costco.  It seems to 
have less bronzing and is similar to Epson Prem Glossy, but with 
perhaps a little more Dmax and larger gamut in the dark tones.  I 
think it only comes in 8.5X11 size.

I have created a "selenium tone" for use with IJC/OPM on a few 
papers.  I'm not 100% satisfied with it, but it approaches the same 
tones as a selenium print (cool with a hint of magenta).  IJC/OPM, 
QTR, ImagePrint and other programs let you increase or decrease the 
effect by blending profiles or with tint pickers.  I don't know when 
or if digital prints will every truly match the look and feel of a 
good wet darkroom print, or vice versa.  They are different animals 
and each has its own strengths, weaknesses and beauty.  

Lou

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "guy_staley" 
<guy_staley@y...> wrote:
> 
> Do these two papers print differently? In Paul's data, he states 
that Epson 
> Glossy Photo Paper prints with NO bronzing. Is this also true of 
the Premium 
> Glossy Paper? Is there a better glossy(ish) paper for use with the 
UT7 inkset? 
> 
> Also, what are peoples opinions of these papers as far as print 
quality and 
> Dmax? I am printing with MIS UT7 inks. Should I be using the PK 
with glossy 
> papers? Does the Epson PK provide better Dmax?
> 
> I've been (silver)printing for years on Ilford Gallerie paper
> (typically grade 2 or 3), then dilute selenium toning for increased 
Dmax. That is 
> the look I love: That is the standard I am trying to approach 
digitally. Am I 
> completely dreaming and wasting my time?
> 
> I know all these issues have been covered here, but it's a little 
hard to decipher 
> people's opinions as the info I'm seeking is so scattered, and the 
Yahoo 
> Groups search engine leaves a lot to be desired(!).
> 
> Honestly, I'm feeling a little overwhelmed trying to get a handle 
on all this digital 

> printing stuff. I feel like a gradeschooler in college!
> 
> Thanks much for any help.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Guy Staley
> Seattle, WA