Digital BW, The Print

Has anyone on the list had any experience with the Ilford system 
using their Archiva Monokrome Quads and the Encad 42" Novajet 630i w/ 
Ripstar RIP?

I saw some prints a client had made on this system. They were as 
close as I have seen to a selenium toned FB print.

I guess that this is a tuned system and fairly expensive, but the 
prints were silver gelatin clones.

Mike

They were as 
> close as I have seen to a selenium toned FB print.
> 
Which paper were they printed on ? You state the inks but not the 
paper ?
Frank

Frank,

I believe they were printed on Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 308, at least it 
looked and felt just like it.

Are you familiar with them?

Mike


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., fh.gross@s... wrote:

> They were as 
> > close as I have seen to a selenium toned FB print.
> > 
> Which paper were they printed on ? You state the inks but not the 
> paper ?
> Frank

Nope, I'm just catching up on the materials hence my interest in your 
post. I'm looking for the closest thing to a traditional fibre base 
glossy air dried finish - I usually ("traditionally")use Agfa 
Multicontrast Classic

> 
> Are you familiar with them?
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., fh.gross@s... wrote:
> > They were as 
> > > close as I have seen to a selenium toned FB print.
> > > 
> > Which paper were they printed on ? You state the inks but not the 
> > paper ?
> > Frank

We have an Ilford 700i 42" printer at work( made
by Encad). We're using both the color pigments
and dyes and I'm finding it makes a pretty good
print. My latest experiment was printing on
canvas. To my surprise, it looks really good. So,
now you've got me curious about the Monokrome
Quads. I'll see if I can get samples from our
rep. If so I'll let you know.

Alan


"Michael J. Kravit" wrote:
> 
> Has anyone on the list had any experience with
the Ilford system
> using their Archiva Monokrome Quads and the
Encad 42" Novajet 630i w/
> Ripstar RIP?
> 
> I saw some prints a client had made on this
system. They were as
> close as I have seen to a selenium toned FB
print.
> 
> I guess that this is a tuned system and fairly
expensive, but the
> prints were silver gelatin clones.
> 
> Mike

>About a year ago I read about a big traveling
photo exhibition >that
>featured large prints made by this Ilford
system. I have >never had a
>chance to see prints. :(

>I wonder if Ilford will get in to the Monochrome
desktop >market. They
>seem like a natural fit because they have such a
big share of >the
>traditional B&W market and the most to loose as
that market >shrinks.

>-Jeff

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Alan,

Thanks that would be really interesting.

The main reason I ask is because I need a new wide format printer for 
my office. I have heard mixed reviews on the Encad line. A local 
photo lab has the one that uses 8 color inks. Their output is very 
nice.

So we are considering the Epson 10000, HP-5000, and the Encad. Being 
able to print with the Monokromes would be a plus as I could print 
B/W photos in the office as well.

I have put a call into the Encad rep, but have not heard back from 
him yet as I only called yesterday.

Thanks
Mike


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Sanders-Herring 
<alaneileen@y...> wrote:

> We have an Ilford 700i 42" printer at work( made
> by Encad). We're using both the color pigments
> and dyes and I'm finding it makes a pretty good
> print. My latest experiment was printing on
> canvas. To my surprise, it looks really good. So,
> now you've got me curious about the Monokrome
> Quads. I'll see if I can get samples from our
> rep. If so I'll let you know.
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> "Michael J. Kravit" wrote:
> > 
> > Has anyone on the list had any experience with
> the Ilford system
> > using their Archiva Monokrome Quads and the
> Encad 42" Novajet 630i w/
> > Ripstar RIP?
> > 
> > I saw some prints a client had made on this
> system. They were as
> > close as I have seen to a selenium toned FB
> print.
> > 
> > I guess that this is a tuned system and fairly
> expensive, but the
> > prints were silver gelatin clones.
> > 
> > Mike
> 
> >About a year ago I read about a big traveling
> photo exhibition >that
> >featured large prints made by this Ilford
> system. I have >never had a
> >chance to see prints. :(
> 
> >I wonder if Ilford will get in to the Monochrome
> desktop >market. They
> >seem like a natural fit because they have such a
> big share of >the
> >traditional B&W market and the most to loose as
> that market >shrinks.
> 
> >-Jeff
> 
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on 11/15/01 12:53 PM, Michael J. Kravit at mkravit@... wrote:

> Has anyone on the list had any experience with the Ilford system
> Using their Archiva MonoKrome Quads and the Encad 42" Novajet 630i w/
> Ripstar RIP?
> 
> I saw some prints a client had made on this system. They were as
> close as I have seen to a selenium toned FB print.
> 
> I guess that this is a tuned system and fairly expensive, but the
> prints were silver gelatin clones.
> 
> Mike


Hello  Mike,

I own an Ilford NovaJet 700i, 60".  It is OEM¹ed from Encad and is basically
an Encad 700.  We use both Ilford Archiva (color Dye) and MonoKrome inks
(Quad Pigment).  I have been very happy with the MonoKrome ink set.  The
quality of output is wonderful, especially on larger sized prints, 30"x"40
and larger.  

In our workflow we do our own "conversion" from an RGB file into 4 separate
tonal ranges.   Files are then printed through Ripstar, basically bypassing
Ilford color management.   The result gives us more control and smoother
results then the Ilford workflow.

We developed this technique for our IRIS.   We produce Quadtone prints on
the IRIS using both Lysonic Neutral and Warm tone inksets.


Hope this info helps.


Joe Berndt

www.BowHaus.com