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Does anyone want to weigh in on buying or not buying a refurbished 
Epson printer (Refurb by Epson). Has anyone done so. Has anyone had 
problems?

John H

I bought a refurb Epson scanner (not my 2200 printer, but probably
should have)..I like refurbs, after all there were two EXTRA quality
control inspectors: the buyer spotted trouble, Epson fixed and
inspected again. It's a new warrenty, too. 

John K

> 
> Does anyone want to weigh in on buying or not buying a refurbished 
> Epson printer (Refurb by Epson). Has anyone done so. Has anyone had 
> problems?
> 
> John H

On Feb 18, 2005, at 2:58 PM, Mr_Misty_44 wrote:

> Does anyone want to weigh in on buying or not buying a refurbished
> Epson printer (Refurb by Epson). Has anyone done so. Has anyone had
> problems?


I have an Epson refurbbed 1280. It worked great for a few months then 
started having feed problems in the middle of a big job. It took a 
couple of tries but I finally got it replaced with one from Epson that 
works.

My only complaint is that a couple months after spending $325 on a 
refurb Epson started doing $100 rebates on new ones which lowered the 
price to less than the refurbs.

cort

--
Cort Anderson
Training Wheels, llc
www.trwheels.com
620-488-2960
620-488-3196 fax

I have purchased four Epson refurb devices. All looked like new. One
printer developed a problem after a few months but they sent me a
replacement the next day. 

Epson refurbs are really not used, just devices that either had a
problem or the purchaser thought had a problem. If they really did
have a problem, Epson fixes it and sells as a refurb. I believe the
large quantity of refurb inventory comes from the rapid replacement
problem. 

I think refurbs are a great way to save money. One of my printers
costs, after rebate, only slightly more than a set of ink carts. 

Bob Michaels

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Mr_Misty_44"
<jharvey@i...> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone want to weigh in on buying or not buying a refurbished 
> Epson printer (Refurb by Epson). Has anyone done so. Has anyone had 
> problems?
> 
> John H

I have a refurbed 9600.  No problems at all, and if it's an official Epson 
refurbishment, it comes with the full one year warranty as with a new machine.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Michaels" <
bob@b...> wrote:

> 
> I have purchased four Epson refurb devices. All looked like new. One
> printer developed a problem after a few months but they sent me a
> replacement the next day. 
> 
> Epson refurbs are really not used, just devices that either had a
> problem or the purchaser thought had a problem. If they really did
> have a problem, Epson fixes it and sells as a refurb. I believe the
> large quantity of refurb inventory comes from the rapid replacement
> problem. 
> 
> I think refurbs are a great way to save money. One of my printers
> costs, after rebate, only slightly more than a set of ink carts. 
> 
> Bob Michaels
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Mr_Misty_44"
> <jharvey@i...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Does anyone want to weigh in on buying or not buying a refurbished 
> > Epson printer (Refurb by Epson). Has anyone done so. Has anyone had 
> > problems?
> > 
> > John H

Yes I have got a 7600 from Printworks. 1 877 953-7766
paul@....I have had the 7600 for almost
a year,it has a year warranty.It cost 2 grand.There is
no risk involved. I am completely satisfied. Francis
Ford
--- Cort Anderson <cort@...> wrote:

> On Feb 18, 2005, at 2:58 PM, Mr_Misty_44 wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone want to weigh in on buying or not
> buying a refurbished
> > Epson printer (Refurb by Epson). Has anyone done
> so. Has anyone had
> > problems?
> 
> 
> I have an Epson refurbbed 1280. It worked great for
> a few months then 
> started having feed problems in the middle of a big
> job. It took a 
> couple of tries but I finally got it replaced with
> one from Epson that 
> works.
> 
> My only complaint is that a couple months after
> spending $325 on a 
> refurb Epson started doing $100 rebates on new ones
> which lowered the 
> price to less than the refurbs.
> 
> cort
> 
> --
> Cort Anderson
> Training Wheels, llc
> www.trwheels.com
> 620-488-2960
> 620-488-3196 fax
> 
> 


		
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A 1280 and 2200 without any problems relating to the printers.

William



>  From: "Mr_Misty_44" <jharvey@...>
> Subject: Refurbished Printers
>
>
>
>
> Does anyone want to weigh in on buying or not buying a refurbished
> Epson printer (Refurb by Epson). Has anyone done so. Has anyone had
> problems?
>
> John H


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I've had both refurbs and new. I think there's a lot of merit in a
general principle: If the original product design was excellent,
refurbs will usually be as good or better than new and save some
money. If the original was crap, refurbs are proly supercrap. 
   Good refurbs undergo more exacting quality control than new units
(often there never was anything wrong with the unit, just user
ignorance, etc.). With bad designs, the refurbs are apt to be the
worst of the bad, and no amount of patching will make them a good
design. 
   Only consider refurbs if you really need to save money (and not for
mission critical purposes unless you get several).
   This list is one of the best places to tell the difference. If
these folks like and use a unit, it's a goodun.
   And all generalizations are wrong!

My <.02 worth.
Jim

lenzzman44 wrote:

>   And all generalizations are wrong!
>
>  
>
Including that one? ;-)

-Peter De Smidt

Bought a 1280 refurb.. Couldn't tell it from a new printer --- 11/2 years 
later it's performing to perfection.

Barbara Woolner

Thanks everyone for your opinions. It helps and I really value this 
group.

JH

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lenzzman44" 
<lenzzman44@y...> wrote:
> 
> I've had both refurbs and new. I think there's a lot of merit in a
> general principle: If the original product design was excellent,
> refurbs will usually be as good or better than new and save some
> money. If the original was crap, refurbs are proly supercrap. 
>    Good refurbs undergo more exacting quality control than new units
> (often there never was anything wrong with the unit, just user
> ignorance, etc.). With bad designs, the refurbs are apt to be the
> worst of the bad, and no amount of patching will make them a good
> design. 
>    Only consider refurbs if you really need to save money (and not 
for

> mission critical purposes unless you get several).
>    This list is one of the best places to tell the difference. If
> these folks like and use a unit, it's a goodun.
>    And all generalizations are wrong!
> 
> My <.02 worth.
> Jim

I have an Epson refurbed 7600 that has worked like a champ for over 
a year now, and cost almost $1000.00 less than a new one. And on the 
other hand, the last two 1280s (one was a replacement for the first 
one) both had microbanding and never worked well, out of the box, 
with Epson inks, etc....  Go for the refurb, it's probably safer.

Steve Karafyllakis

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Mr_Misty_44" 
<jharvey@i...> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone want to weigh in on buying or not buying a refurbished 
> Epson printer (Refurb by Epson). Has anyone done so. Has anyone 
had 

> problems?
> 
> John H

Most refurbs have never been used or used little.  Once someone opens the
box and returns it, it cannot be sold as new.

However, Epson goes through them and they carry the full warranty.

Personally (having been through the Epson repair schools, I'd rather have
one that has been gone through by a person after the assembly line.

Seth

==-----Original Message-----
==From: Mr_Misty_44 [mailto:jharvey@...] 
==
==
==Does anyone want to weigh in on buying or not buying a 
==refurbished Epson printer (Refurb by Epson). Has anyone done 
==so. Has anyone had problems?
==

My experience was not with buying a refurb but with getting one as a
warranty 
replacement.  I had an R800 that developed a nasty clog.  Epson asked
me to ship it 
back to them and said they'd replace it.  It was replaced with one
that works fine but 
its door doesn't latch as nicely as the door on a new one does.  It's
a much looser fit, 
which obviously has something to do with the way it was used.

Ed



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Seth"
<seth@m...> wrote:
>  Most refurbs have never been used or used little.  Once someone
opens the
> box and returns it, it cannot be sold as new.
> 
> However, Epson goes through them and they carry the full warranty.
> 
> Personally (having been through the Epson repair schools, I'd
rather have

> one that has been gone through by a person after the assembly line.
> 
> Seth