Digital BW, The Print

i want to print b/w on hahnemuehle photo rag 308g by using QTR with 
epson 2100 (original ink/ black matte). are there any recommended 
settings in QTR? How can i tell the software, that i use hahnemuehle 
paper? does QTR detect the hahnemuehle icc profile? i just got the 
QTR, because it was recommended so warmly - so i´m absolutely new to 
it.

thank you very much

andreas

i want to print bw on hahnemühle photo rag 308 g on an epson 2100 
(original ink), using QTR. I am new to QTR - are there any 
recommended settings for that configuration? I´m a windows user.

thank you

andreas

I use the QTRgui interface with QTR and set the profiles for HPR. 
Works great on my 2200.

Richard

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:25:30 -0000, hublaif <hub.laif@...> wrote:
> 
> i want to print bw on hahnemühle photo rag 308 g on an epson 2100 
> (original ink), using QTR. I am new to QTR - are there any 
> recommended settings for that configuration? I´m a windows user.
> 
> thank you
> 
> andreas
> 
> 
> 
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thank you richard for your quick reply!

what i don´t understand: when i open the QTRgui interface, i see a 
window that asks for media type - is that where HPR should appear? 
Or how do I set profiles for HPR? Of course I downloaded the 
ICCprofiles from Hahnemühle, so they are in the right folder. Or do 
I have to set them in epson print preview - i thought i either work 
in the "normal" epson print-mode - or in QTR. still confused...

andreas


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Richard 
Sintchak <rich815@g...> wrote:
> I use the QTRgui interface with QTR and set the profiles for HPR. 
> Works great on my 2200.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:25:30 -0000, hublaif <hub.laif@t...> wrote:
> > 
> > i want to print bw on hahnemühle photo rag 308 g on an epson 
2100 
> > (original ink), using QTR. I am new to QTR - are there any 
> > recommended settings for that configuration? I´m a windows user.
> > 
> > thank you
> > 
> > andreas
> > 
> > 
> > 
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hublaif wrote:
> what i don\ufffdt understand: when i open the QTRgui interface, i see a 
> window that asks for media type - is that where HPR should appear? 
> Or how do I set profiles for HPR? Of course I downloaded the 
> ICCprofiles from Hahnem\ufffdhle, so they are in the right folder. Or do 
> I have to set them in epson print preview - i thought i either work 
> in the "normal" epson print-mode - or in QTR. still confused...

For the paper you would say matte, I think.

Then, look in the curves pull-down boxes.  You'll find, for example, 
UCmk_2200-HPR-cool and UCmk_2200-HPR-warm.

	Walt

thank you very much - the curves menu doesn´t have HPR - there are 
lots of other papers, but not that one. i got the latest version of 
QTR

andreas


-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Walt Farrell 
<wftemp1@h...> wrote:
> hublaif wrote:
> > what i don´t understand: when i open the QTRgui interface, i see 
a 
> > window that asks for media type - is that where HPR should 
appear? 
> > Or how do I set profiles for HPR? Of course I downloaded the 
> > ICCprofiles from Hahnemühle, so they are in the right folder. Or 
do 
> > I have to set them in epson print preview - i thought i either 
work 
> > in the "normal" epson print-mode - or in QTR. still confused...
> 
> For the paper you would say matte, I think.
> 
> Then, look in the curves pull-down boxes.  You'll find, for 
example, 

> UCmk_2200-HPR-cool and UCmk_2200-HPR-warm.
> 
> 	Walt

Andreas

QTR does not use ICC profiles (except as described in Roy's latest addition
of QTR Matte and QTR Photo and this is done in the PS print pane not in the
QTR driver pane).  For all matte paper QTR "profiles" (and in fact, I
believe, for most RC paper profiles) the paper choice is simply "Matt
Paper".  QTR uses curves which people have erroneously been referring to as
profiles.  These curves are selected in the QTR print pane (I am a Mac user
and so do not know exactly what the QTR PC GUI looks like).  As I understand
it, no specific HPR curves have been made for the PC version (I may be out
of date on this and some may have been made available in the last week or
so).  In this case just use the EEM curves for now.  Making your own curves
requires a bit more understanding and work.

I strongly recommend you go through Roy's new ICC addition and use QTR Gray
as your workspace and prior to printing convert your image to QTR Matte
(don't lose your original master image).  Instructions have been posted here
many times before and there is a readme in Roy's download.

Steve

> From: hublaif <hub.laif@t-online.de>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 21:53:19 -0000
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] hahnemuehle photo rag with QTR on epson 2100
> 
> 
> 
> thank you very much - the curves menu doesn´t have HPR - there are
> lots of other papers, but not that one. i got the latest version of
> QTR
> 
> andreas
> 
> 
> -- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Walt Farrell
> <wftemp1@h...> wrote:
>> hublaif wrote:
>>> what i don´t understand: when i open the QTRgui interface, i see
> a 
>>> window that asks for media type - is that where HPR should
> appear? 
>>> Or how do I set profiles for HPR? Of course I downloaded the
>>> ICCprofiles from Hahnemühle, so they are in the right folder. Or
> do 
>>> I have to set them in epson print preview - i thought i either
> work 
>>> in the "normal" epson print-mode - or in QTR. still confused...
>> 
>> For the paper you would say matte, I think.
>> 
>> Then, look in the curves pull-down boxes.  You'll find, for
> example, 
>> UCmk_2200-HPR-cool and UCmk_2200-HPR-warm.
>> 
>> Walt
>

>thank you very much - the curves menu doesn\ufffdt have HPR - there are
>lots of other papers, but not that one. i got the latest version of
>QTR


Is it possible that you are using Windows and the person who responded about
finding HPR in the curves drop-down is using Mac? I use QTR/Gui with Windows
and I don't have a curve for HPR either, unless it's been added in a more
current version than the one I'm using.

I don't use HPR so I don't know for sure but I seem to remember a couple
people here saying they got good results with HPR using the EEM curve.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "hublaif" <hub.laif@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] hahnemuehle photo rag with QTR on epson 2100




thank you very much - the curves menu doesn\ufffdt have HPR - there are
lots of other papers, but not that one. i got the latest version of
QTR

andreas


-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Walt Farrell
<wftemp1@h...> wrote:
> hublaif wrote:
> > what i don\ufffdt understand: when i open the QTRgui interface, i see
a
> > window that asks for media type - is that where HPR should
appear?
> > Or how do I set profiles for HPR? Of course I downloaded the
> > ICCprofiles from Hahnem\ufffdhle, so they are in the right folder. Or
do
> > I have to set them in epson print preview - i thought i either
work
> > in the "normal" epson print-mode - or in QTR. still confused...
>
> For the paper you would say matte, I think.
>
> Then, look in the curves pull-down boxes.  You'll find, for
example,
> UCmk_2200-HPR-cool and UCmk_2200-HPR-warm.
>
> Walt






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B. Ellis wrote:
>>thank you very much - the curves menu doesn\ufffdt have HPR - there are
>>lots of other papers, but not that one. i got the latest version of
>>QTR
> 
> 
> 
> Is it possible that you are using Windows and the person who responded about
> finding HPR in the curves drop-down is using Mac? I use QTR/Gui with Windows
> and I don't have a curve for HPR either, unless it's been added in a more
> current version than the one I'm using.

No, I'm using a PC to drive my 2200, and I do have the HPR curves I 
listed in that reply.  It's possible I got them from someone else on 
this list, I suppose, as the QTR install log doesn't show them.

If so perhaps someone else will know where they came from; I can't find 
the file nor URL I installed them from.  Sorry.

	Walt

thank you so far - i wrote a mail to roy harrington, perhaps he 
knows the solution... 

andreas

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Walt Farrell 
<wftemp1@h...> wrote:
> 
> B. Ellis wrote:
> >>thank you very much - the curves menu doesn´t have HPR - there 
are
> >>lots of other papers, but not that one. i got the latest version 
of
> >>QTR
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Is it possible that you are using Windows and the person who 
responded about
> > finding HPR in the curves drop-down is using Mac? I use QTR/Gui 
with Windows
> > and I don't have a curve for HPR either, unless it's been added 
in a more
> > current version than the one I'm using.
> 
> No, I'm using a PC to drive my 2200, and I do have the HPR curves 
I 
> listed in that reply.  It's possible I got them from someone else 
on 
> this list, I suppose, as the QTR install log doesn't show them.
> 
> If so perhaps someone else will know where they came from; I can't 
find 

> the file nor URL I installed them from.  Sorry.
> 
> 	Walt

Walt Farrell wrote:
> 
> B. Ellis wrote:
> 
>>>thank you very much - the curves menu doesn\ufffdt have HPR - there are
>>>lots of other papers, but not that one. i got the latest version of
>>>QTR
>>
>>
>>
>>Is it possible that you are using Windows and the person who responded about
>>finding HPR in the curves drop-down is using Mac? I use QTR/Gui with Windows
>>and I don't have a curve for HPR either, unless it's been added in a more
>>current version than the one I'm using.
> 
> 
> No, I'm using a PC to drive my 2200, and I do have the HPR curves I 
> listed in that reply.  It's possible I got them from someone else on 
> this list, I suppose, as the QTR install log doesn't show them.
> 
> If so perhaps someone else will know where they came from; I can't find 
> the file nor URL I installed them from.  Sorry.

Searching back through the archives I found the link to the site where I 
found the HPR "profile" for QTR on the 2200.

See this message from Carl Schofield back in October: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/49876
which has a link to his site at 
http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/FileSharing.woa/wa/default?user=scho&templatefn=FileSharing2.html&xmlfn=TKDocument.2.xml&sitefn=RootSite.xml&aff=consumer&cty=US&lang=en
where you can find quad2200.zip.

	Walt