Yahoo Groups archive

Digital BW, The Print

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 22:56 UTC

Thread

[Digital BW] Re: FS ink density compared to Piezo

[Digital BW] Re: FS ink density compared to Piezo

2001-11-18 by Paul Roark

Mike,

You wrote:

>In comparing the MIS FS inks on the 7000 with a CFS and the Piezo
>inks run through carts, the densities appear to be very similar.

Good.  I don't know what accounted for the higher density prints I just got
out of my Piezo 1160 outfit.  I think I'll just assume that the densities I
was accustomed to in the past from Piezo and the FS densities are correct.

> ...The curve of the MIS FS inks is just a bit more linear which
>is a good thing as I always felt that the Piezo inks were designed to
>compress the shadow densities.

This is interesting.  With the original Piezo I have used with the 1160, the
black ink appears to be the same as the MIS VM/FS black.  They both result
in linear curves with the Piezo software and MIS VM curves.  However, Jerry
Nevins believes strongly that Piezo uses a black ink from Cabot.  I suspect
this is where the MIS "Double Density" ink comes from.  While it is not a
co-solvent ink like Piezo, it does have the characteristic of compressing
the blacks.  It makes me wonder if Piezo black, at least for the 7000, is a
different black than the original Piezo and VM/FS black.

>I printed a set of 6 very soft high key Calla Lilly images this
>weekend and compared them to the Piezo prints of the same images. The
>result was very similar with a slight edge in detail to the MIS FS
>inks.

>If Bob could produce these inks with just a slightly more neutral
>tone I think that they would be a huge success.

My next project is to finalize the formula for a neutral ink.  I intend it
to be used as the base for sepia toner VM inkset as well as for a neutral FS
inkset.  I assume MIS will produce it if there is demand.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

[Digital BW] Re: FS ink density compared to Piezo

2001-12-12 by tomoc

Paul-

Is it safe to switch carts from FS to VM without a flushing cycle?

thanks,

==tom


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Mike,
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> >In comparing the MIS FS inks on the 7000 with a CFS and the Piezo
> >inks run through carts, the densities appear to be very similar.
> 
> Good.  I don't know what accounted for the higher density prints I 
just got
> out of my Piezo 1160 outfit.  I think I'll just assume that the 
densities I

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.