Digital BW, The Print

Alan,
You mentioned that you were producing a digital negative for a friend. What is the current status using Lincoln quads for this purpose? Do you print on pictoro transparent media? Dye based inks would sound preferential in this regard. Do you see a benefit from hex vs quad tones for this specific purpose? Which printers are prefered, 3000 with larger dot or 1280/1200/7000 with very small or variable dots?. For printing on silver, in which every defect shows, how close is the quality to what one gets with a diffusion dither image setter output (3600 dpi or so)? At the risk of being booted off this list, I still lust for the look and feel of silver prints! Unfortunately, I lost my virginity to photoshop.
Stephen Kundell 


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Stephan,

Not to worry. This is exactly why the list was created. Want to look 
at ALL the options to get a B&W print of any kind out of a digital 
file!

Inkjet is the major interest at the moment but I really welcome 
people who what to talk about getting back to silver or platinum or 
photogravure or whatever.

I'm really interested in what Allen comes up with for silver contact 
printing and the work Phil Bard is doing with A&I to get a 4x5 silver 
neg for enlargement from a high end film recorder. Also a possibility 
for a silver contact neg up to 8X10 maybe 11X14.

My darkroom (such as it is!) is right next to my inkjet. I could see 
myself doing both.

So keep the questions coming and let us know what your up to in this 
regard!

Thanks,
Martin Wesley



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Stephen Kundell, MD" 
<skundell@p...> wrote:
> Alan,
> You mentioned that you were producing a digital negative for a 
friend. What is the current status using Lincoln quads for this 
purpose? Do you print on pictoro transparent media? Dye based inks 
would sound preferential in this regard. Do you see a benefit from 
hex vs quad tones for this specific purpose? Which printers are 
prefered, 3000 with larger dot or 1280/1200/7000 with very small or 
variable dots?. For printing on silver, in which every defect shows, 
how close is the quality to what one gets with a diffusion dither 
image setter output (3600 dpi or so)? At the risk of being booted off 
this list, I still lust for the look and feel of silver prints! 
Unfortunately, I lost my virginity to photoshop.

> Stephen Kundell 
> 
> 
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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Stephen Kundell, MD" 
<skundell@p...> wrote:

 At the risk of being booted off this list, I still lust for the look and feel of silver 
prints! 

That's right, Stephen, that would be grounds for banning you. Now, if you only 
made those silver prints from digitally manipulated negs.....


;---)

Antonis

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Stephen Kundell, MD"
> <skundell@p...> wrote:
> 
> At the risk of being booted off this list, I still lust for the look and feel
> of silver 
> prints! 
> 
> That's right, Stephen, that would be grounds for banning you. Now, if you only
> made those silver prints from digitally manipulated negs.....

Then again -- just what does "digital" really mean?  One might say that a
silver print is just a series of black and white dots of various sizes
placed in a standardized rectilinear data plane and it could be seen as just
another medium to store digital information for use with the right reader --
sort of a really big floppy.

Dan Culbertson :-)
Always trying to be inclusive

Stephen,

The Spectratones worked well using the now 
discontinued ilford transparency film (now 
replaced by an incompatible film) with 
cyanotype and gum bichromate.  Both of 
these processes really don't care about grain.

I imagine that the silver process may will 
show up grain and I should just send my 
friend a quick "grain test" instead of 
relinearizing to the oce transparency film I 
now have (which takes much more of the 
Spectratone inks then the pictorico trans 
film.)

For a silver process, I don't know which 
printer would be best since we haven't 
completed these steps due to my delays and 
other deadlines.  I'm sure that 1440 or higher 
would be my default setting for printing 
anything for a digital neg on any printer.

A lot of people prefer silver, and 
incorporating a digital step in the process 
makes them more unique.   Also, no media 
longevity issues.

Allen

A lot of people 

Message: 1
   Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 17:38:09 -0700

   From: "Stephen Kundell, MD" <
skundell@...>
Subject: digital negatives

Alan,
You mentioned that you were producing a 
digital negative for a friend. What is the 
current status using Lincoln quads for this 
purpose? Do you print on pictoro transparent 
media? Dye based inks would sound 
preferential in this regard. Do you see a 
benefit from hex vs quad tones for this 
specific purpose? Which printers are 
prefered, 3000 with larger dot or 1280/1200/
7000 with very small or variable dots?. For 
printing on silver, in which every defect 
shows, how close is the quality to what one 
gets with a diffusion dither image setter 
output (3600 dpi or so)? At the risk of being 
booted off this list, I still lust for the look 
and feel of silver prints! Unfortunately, I lost 
my virginity to photoshop.
Stephen Kundell