Digital BW, The Print

Just wanted to warn everyone that QTR does not seem to want to print out of Mac OS X 
Tiger, at least on a 9600.  Even after an un-instal and re-install of QTR.  I also lost my 
SCSI scanner which worked perfect in Panther.  So back up everything if movig to Tiger 
this week or stay in Panther.

Tariq

Panther works just fine --- given the kinds software BW people are 
using - best to probably stay on Panther for another six months at 
least...(and then plan to take a class at  your local community college 
to get the ed. discount!)

altaf

On Apr 23, 2005, at 12:50 PM, tariqgibranstudio wrote:

>
>
> Just wanted to warn everyone that QTR does not seem to want to print 
> out of Mac OS X
> Tiger, at least on a 9600.  Even after an un-instal and re-install of 
> QTR.  I also lost my
> SCSI scanner which worked perfect in Panther.  So back up everything 
> if movig to Tiger
> this week or stay in Panther.
>
> Tariq
>

A friend of mine uses Macs, he said he will not even bother with 
Tiger until at least three or four updates come out. Might be good 
advice.

Thanks for the heads-up.
Maybe it's wise to keep the computer connected to the printer on 
Panther for a while.
I'm looking forward to Tiger, but will probably just try it on a 
non-critical machine first ;-)

Cheers,

John Toles
www.dragonflyprinting.com

I'm just testing it on another partition myself.  Nothing I could use everyday due to 
compatibility issues.  I have also found that there is some strangeness with the way all my 
SilverFast scanning windows get hidden behind CS when it opens so not only are QTR and 
my SCSI Epson Scanner not working at all, but SilverFast with my FireWire Film 
Scanner(Polaroid SprintScan 120) is a little squirly.  Tiger is nice but too bad it's breaking 
everything I actually use!  It also has some "bloatware" type apps built into the OS that 
can't be quit(DashBoard for instance) which slows things down a bit on my Dual G4 1.25.  
Images take longer to open in CS and there is a slight pause when selecting certain dialog 
boxes.   I'm sure it runs great on Dual G5's though.

Tariq


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Dragonfly Imaging & Printing 
<dragonfly.printing@s...> wrote:

> Thanks for the heads-up.
> Maybe it's wise to keep the computer connected to the printer on 
> Panther for a while.
> I'm looking forward to Tiger, but will probably just try it on a 
> non-critical machine first ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John Toles
> www.dragonflyprinting.com

>   It also has some "bloatware" type apps built into the OS that 
> can't be quit(DashBoard for instance) which slows things down a bit 
on my Dual G4 1.25.  
> Images take longer to open in CS and there is a slight pause when 
selecting certain dialog 
> boxes.   I'm sure it runs great on Dual G5's though.
> 
> Tariq


Lovely bloatware.... must of learned that from Microflaccid. If it 
wasn't for all the things that slow the machines down, every platform 
would be incredibly fast. Too bad Apple didn't adopt and fully support 
the Xwindow system so you could choose how fast you wanted your machine 
to go (with in reason).

On Apr 25, 2005, at 9:33 AM, dfaprinting wrote:

>
>
>>   It also has some "bloatware" type apps built into the OS that
>> can't be quit(DashBoard for instance) which slows things down a bit
> on my Dual G4 1.25.
>> Images take longer to open in CS and there is a slight pause when
> selecting certain dialog
>> boxes.   I'm sure it runs great on Dual G5's though.
>>
>> Tariq
>
>
> Lovely bloatware.... must of learned that from Microflaccid. If it
> wasn't for all the things that slow the machines down, every platform
> would be incredibly fast. Too bad Apple didn't adopt and fully support
> the Xwindow system so you could choose how fast you wanted your machine
> to go (with in reason).

Dashboard doesn't slow anything down unless you use it; it's like 
saying Photoshop slows my machine down. Dashboard, however, can be 
useful to some, and I've already set to work on some Dashboard widgets 
for a production environment (for checking job status, and other task 
info).

In my experience with Tiger, it's faster on every piece of hardware 
I've tested, from 12" iBooks to G5s. Likewise, dialogs are much faster 
here for me, and I work on G4s only every day (I don't rate a G5 yet 
:). YMMV, of course.

Btw, system updates tend to break poorly developed apps, on all 
platforms. Sadly, most scanner drivers fall right into this category. 
If it's a critical production system, you shouldn't be upgrading 
without some testing anyway - it's easy, throw it on a FW drive and 
give it a go.

Best,

Roger

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Roger Howard 
<rogerhoward@m...> wrote:
> 
> throw it on a FW drive and 
> give it a go.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Roger

I wish windows would boot from a firewire drive. That would truly be a 
handy feature, along with a couple of the other Mac firewire boot 
options.

Dashboard is cool, I just don't like that it is built into the OS.  When it was Konfabulator 
before Apple ripped it off, one could choose to have it on or not.  Now, it eats up your 
memory once it is launched.  To varify this, just open your activity monitor and you can 
see that Real Ram is being used by the various apps in Dashboard.  The slow dialogs are 
mainly the printing dialog windows but I noticed a dramatic slowdown in opening images
(even small ones) in CS compared to 10.3.8.  As far as poorly written software goes, The 
problem is that Apple apparently changed the way the SCSI driver works in Tiger vs. 
Panther.  They did the exact same thing when Panther came out.  Everyone who had 
perfectly working SCSI devices started having major problems.  SilverFast by Lasersoft 
imaging is some of the best scanning software made by the way.  I work on a G3 
Powerbook and a Dual G4 daily in my business and use Dual G5's in the class I teach.  
Besides full 64bit capability which really means nothing at this point as there is no 
software to take advantage of it yet(not even the new version of Photoshop!), the only real 
new thing in Tiger is Spotlight and Dashboard and a return to the ability to rotate the 
screen(ya, we only had that back in OS 9!).  Since 10.4.1 is apparently right around the 
corner, hopefully apple will address SCSI, quartz graphic display issues as well as printing 
problems right off the bat.

Tariq

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Roger Howard 
<rogerhoward@m...> wrote:

> 
> On Apr 25, 2005, at 9:33 AM, dfaprinting wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >>   It also has some "bloatware" type apps built into the OS that
> >> can't be quit(DashBoard for instance) which slows things down a bit
> > on my Dual G4 1.25.
> >> Images take longer to open in CS and there is a slight pause when
> > selecting certain dialog
> >> boxes.   I'm sure it runs great on Dual G5's though.
> >>
> >> Tariq
> >
> >
> > Lovely bloatware.... must of learned that from Microflaccid. If it
> > wasn't for all the things that slow the machines down, every platform
> > would be incredibly fast. Too bad Apple didn't adopt and fully support
> > the Xwindow system so you could choose how fast you wanted your machine
> > to go (with in reason).
> 
> Dashboard doesn't slow anything down unless you use it; it's like 
> saying Photoshop slows my machine down. Dashboard, however, can be 
> useful to some, and I've already set to work on some Dashboard widgets 
> for a production environment (for checking job status, and other task 
> info).
> 
> In my experience with Tiger, it's faster on every piece of hardware 
> I've tested, from 12" iBooks to G5s. Likewise, dialogs are much faster 
> here for me, and I work on G4s only every day (I don't rate a G5 yet 
> :). YMMV, of course.
> 
> Btw, system updates tend to break poorly developed apps, on all 
> platforms. Sadly, most scanner drivers fall right into this category. 
> If it's a critical production system, you shouldn't be upgrading 
> without some testing anyway - it's easy, throw it on a FW drive and 
> give it a go.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Roger