Re: [Digital BW] Re: Digital DOF [WAS: Sigma lenses & Canon Digital cameras]
2005-04-28 by guy washburn
I have no problem getting shallow dof with the 20D and my 28-70 2.8. A 501.4 would be amazing. Guy --- "Doug I." <puzzolente@...> wrote: > Seth, > I understand what you're saying, but the smaller > sensor does > *effectively* translate to greater DOF in terms of > practical use. And > that's a double-edged sword. If I want to fill my > frame with someone's > face I can whip out my 100mm with film and work from > x distance with y > DOF. To get the same crop with a smaller digital > sensor I will have to > use a shorter focal length or move back--both > situations that produce > greater DOF. Right? > > As someone who makes most of his money shooting > candid, available light > (often indoor), shallow DOF kid portraits on Ilford > Delta 3200, this > has been the deal breaker for me in terms of fully > making the leap to > digital. The 2 things I need--low noise in really > low light and often > super-shallow DOF in fairly close quarters--just > aren't there yet. > > So--while a 20D is perfect for just about everything > else I shoot, as a > part-timer I can't justify the $$$ for the 1Ds II I > really need for > DOF/working distance reasons. And as awesome as that > camera is, it > still is unable to match film at ISO 3200 > (admittedly a niche market, > but unfortunately MY niche market ;-). > > Doug > > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:50:26 -0500 > > From: "Seth" <seth@...> > > Subject: RE: Re: Sigma lenses & Canon Digital > cameras [was > > www.OpenRAW.org needs > > > > Clayton- > > > > DOF has nothing to do with sensor size. A 200mm > lens on a full frame > > has a > > given DOF. If you put it on a sensor with a 1.5 > factor it now has a > > 300mm > > EFFECTIVE focal length. It still is a 200mm lens > and maintains THAT > > DOF. > > Just ONE of the advantages of using a smaller > sensor --if everything > > else is > > equal. Since it also has the SAME f/stop you gain > that. No need to > > use an > > extender or a longer, heavier lens. > > > > Seth > > > > ==-----Original Message----- > > == > > ==I'm asking because I look forward to moving to a > larger > > ==sensor camera someday, but have gotten terribly > spoiled by > > ==the Pro-1's DOF (2/3 sensor). I'm wondering what > I'd be > > ==giving up. When I was in DVNP in January I used > mostly f/5.6 > > ==and speeds were in the 1/400 to 1/600 range at > ISO 50. There > > ==were no DOF limitations, everything was tack > sharp and no > > ==blurry flora even though there was a good > breeze. It was an > > ==absolute delight to work that way. > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs