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2005-05-06 by Tim Taylor
I have Photoshop 7 currently and want to upgrade to CS or CS2 but the price new is outside my budget (given that I just purchased an Olympus c-808 and Epson printer) so was wondering if anyone has ever purchased software like this on Ebay? What should I ask the seller to insure I reduce my exposure to problems? My main purpose is to use the advanced functions to handle RAW images. Thanks in advance for your help!
2005-05-06 by Paul Roark
If the software has ever been loaded and registered on another computer, you will not be able to use it. Be sure the seller has an unblemished rating on eBay. CS2 appears to have some significant advances for digital cameras. It would be worth paying more for than CS. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
> -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim > Taylor > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 7:09 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Photoshop CS/CS2 on ebay > > I have Photoshop 7 currently and want to upgrade to CS or CS2 but the > price new is outside my budget (given that I just purchased an Olympus > c-808 and Epson printer) so was wondering if anyone has ever purchased > software like this on Ebay? What should I ask the seller to insure I > reduce my exposure to problems? > > My main purpose is to use the advanced functions to handle RAW images. > > Thanks in advance for your help! > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
2005-05-06 by e5bowman
Hi Tim, The upgrade price (given that you have Version 7 already) for CS2 is $149 - were you thinking that you had to buy the full version? Eric --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Taylor" <tim@2...> wrote:
> I have Photoshop 7 currently and want to upgrade to CS or CS2 but the > price new is outside my budget (given that I just purchased an Olympus > c-808 and Epson printer) so was wondering if anyone has ever purchased > software like this on Ebay? What should I ask the seller to insure I > reduce my exposure to problems? > > My main purpose is to use the advanced functions to handle RAW images. > > Thanks in advance for your help!
2005-05-06 by Tim Taylor
No, I knew I could upgrade. But just tight on money. Some ebay prices for this were very cheap. But I will re-think the cost again. Read a good article on the cost of digital photography and the cost of the software was the smaller cost vs printing, ink, paper, etc. Thanks! --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "e5bowman" <e5bowman@y...> wrote:
> Hi Tim, > > The upgrade price (given that you have Version 7 already) for CS2 is > $149 - were you thinking that you had to buy the full version? > > Eric > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Taylor" > <tim@2...> wrote: > > I have Photoshop 7 currently and want to upgrade to CS or CS2 but the > > price new is outside my budget (given that I just purchased an Olympus > > c-808 and Epson printer) so was wondering if anyone has ever purchased > > software like this on Ebay? What should I ask the seller to insure I > > reduce my exposure to problems? > > > > My main purpose is to use the advanced functions to handle RAW images. > > > > Thanks in advance for your help!
2005-05-06 by aitor Peña Inclán
Hi, Does anyone from what version could be upgrade?. I mean, cost the same to upgrade from Cs, 7.0 or 5.0 ?. e5bowman el 6/5/05 17:55 escribió > Hi Tim, > > The upgrade price (given that you have Version 7 already) for CS2 is > $149 - were you thinking that you had to buy the full version? > -- Aitor
2005-05-06 by John Vitollo
aitor Peña Inclán <aitor.pinclan@t...> wrote: >Does anyone from what version could be upgrade?. I mean, cost the same to upgrade from Cs, 7.0 or 5.0 ?. It costs the same to upgrade from 7 to CS2 or Photoshop 1 to CS 2...$150.00
2005-05-06 by B. Ellis
> Read a good article on the cost >of digital photography and the cost of the software was the smaller >cost vs printing, ink, paper, etc. No question, I spent more on ink for my 2200 in the first couple weeks I had it than the Photoshop upgrade costs. Also saw an interesting analysis recently showing that the additional cost of the 4000 vs the 2200 is more than reocouped, and pretty quickly, through reduced ink costs.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Taylor" <tim@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Photoshop CS/CS2 on ebay No, I knew I could upgrade. But just tight on money. Some ebay prices for this were very cheap. But I will re-think the cost again. Read a good article on the cost of digital photography and the cost of the software was the smaller cost vs printing, ink, paper, etc. Thanks! --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "e5bowman" <e5bowman@y...> wrote: > Hi Tim, > > The upgrade price (given that you have Version 7 already) for CS2 is > $149 - were you thinking that you had to buy the full version? > > Eric > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Taylor" > <tim@2...> wrote: > > I have Photoshop 7 currently and want to upgrade to CS or CS2 but the > > price new is outside my budget (given that I just purchased an Olympus > > c-808 and Epson printer) so was wondering if anyone has ever purchased > > software like this on Ebay? What should I ask the seller to insure I > > reduce my exposure to problems? > > > > My main purpose is to use the advanced functions to handle RAW images. > > > > Thanks in advance for your help! Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
2005-05-06 by aitor Peña Inclán
John Vitollo el 6/5/05 19:33 escribió > aitor Peña Inclán <aitor.pinclan@t...> wrote: >> Does anyone from what version could be upgrade?. I mean, cost the same to > upgrade from Cs, 7.0 or 5.0 ?. > > It costs the same to upgrade from 7 to CS2 or Photoshop 1 to CS 2...$150.00 > I wonder who will buy the full version if you could buy 6.0 on ebay for 30/40$ and then upgrade it . Talking about licenses Does anyone know if I could buy the upgrade in USA and use it worldwide?. For example buy the upgrade ( multilingua if it exist ) and use it in Spain. Here it cost twice. aitor
2005-05-06 by Mark Savoia
This should warn all thinking about getting it from certain eBay sellers. Read deeply. I would not touch it. This is the Full and Complete electronically purchased version download legally from the adobe and professionally created on cd for future use. The software is vaild for updates and downloads.. it does not qualify for registration or technical support from adobe On May 6, 2005, at 1:55 PM, aitor Pe�a Incl�n wrote: > John Vitollo� el 6/5/05 19:33 escribi� > > >� aitor Pe�a Incl�n <aitor.pinclan@t...> wrote: > >> Does anyone from what version could be upgrade?. I mean, cost the > same to > > upgrade from Cs, 7.0 or 5.0 ?. > > > > It costs the same to upgrade from 7 to CS2 or Photoshop 1 to CS > 2...$150.00 > > > > I wonder who will buy the full version if you could buy 6.0 on ebay > for > 30/40$ and then upgrade it . > Talking about licenses Does anyone know if I could buy the upgrade in > USA > and use it worldwide?. > For example buy the upgrade ( multilingua if it exist ) and use it in > Spain. > Here it cost twice. > aitor > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� > AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE� �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > � To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > � > � To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > � > � Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-05-06 by Kip Babington
Do you have a link to this analysis? Sounds like something I ought to read and have on file for the next time I set out to upgrade a printer. Thanks. Cheers, Kip B. Ellis wrote, in part:
><snip> Also saw an interesting analysis >recently showing that the additional cost of the 4000 vs the 2200 is more >than reocouped, and pretty quickly, through reduced ink costs. > >
2005-05-06 by Roy
At 10:45 AM 5/6/2005, you wrote: > > Read a good article on the cost > >of digital photography and the cost of the software was the smaller > >cost vs printing, ink, paper, etc. > >No question, I spent more on ink for my 2200 in the first couple weeks I had >it than the Photoshop upgrade costs. Also saw an interesting analysis >recently showing that the additional cost of the 4000 vs the 2200 is more >than reocouped, and pretty quickly, through reduced ink costs. You got a newbie here who's considering the 2200 but held off to see what the 1800 is about but now I hear the loud rumor of a 2200 upgrade (maybe 2400) so I'm waiting to see what gives there. Your comment about the cost offset because of the price of inks inspired me to see what I could find on the subject. It appears that the money saving comes in because of the size of the print cartridge on the 4000 (110 -220ml) compared to the tiny cartridges on2200.. An economy of scale. This is .50 a square foot for the 4000 as opposed to 2.00-2.50 a square foot for the 2200. ( http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson4000.html#7600_4000_comparison ). I had just been looking at a CIS for about $269 at Ink Republic another $100 would get you 8 - 100ml inks (http://www.inkrepublic.com/ProductDetail.asp?item=2200 ) after the initial purchase. Would this be the economy of scale the 4000 would give you? By the way I'm rather mistrusting of such cheap ink prices. At $239 is it possible to get a reliable CIS Peace Roy
2005-05-07 by Clayton Jones
Hello Roy, >Your comment about the cost offset because of the price of inks >inspired me to see what I could find on the subject. It appears >that the money saving comes in because of the size of the print >cartridge on the 4000 (110-220ml) compared to the tiny cartridges >on2200.. An economy of scale. This is .50 a square foot for the >4000 as opposed to 2.00-2.50 a square foot for the 2200. This analysis may be based on the cost of prefilled carts. I use a 2200 with the new easy top fill carts and buy ink in 4 oz bottles, so the smaller carts only mean I refill more often. These carts have pretty much rendered CIS things obsolete unless you print in huge volume. Before the new carts, refilling was a messy difficult affair, and a CIS was more attractive. But they have their own share of "challenges". The new carts are fantastic, make refilling a breeze, and have opened the door to experimenting with different ink formulas. It's a whole new world. IMO, larger carts is not a good reason to buy a 4000. Not only more money, they are huge (30" square) and heavy (90 lbs). Get one if you want to make 16x20 prints. If 11x14 prints are enough, then a 4000 may be overkill. Regards, Clayton Info on black and white digital printing at http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
2005-05-07 by Clayton Jones
Hello Roy, >Your comment about the cost offset because of the price of inks >inspired me to see what I could find on the subject. It appears >that the money saving comes in because of the size of the print >cartridge on the 4000 (110-220ml) compared to the tiny cartridges >on2200.. An economy of scale. This is .50 a square foot for the >4000 as opposed to 2.00-2.50 a square foot for the 2200. This analysis may be based on the cost of prefilled carts. I use a 2200 with the new easy top fill carts and buy ink in 4 oz bottles, so the smaller carts only mean I refill more often. These carts have pretty much rendered CIS things obsolete unless you print in huge volume. Before the new carts, refilling was a messy difficult affair, and a CIS was more attractive. But they have their own share of "challenges". The new carts are fantastic, make refilling a breeze, and have opened the door to experimenting with different ink formulas. It's a whole new world. IMO, larger carts is not a good reason to buy a 4000. Not only more money, they are huge (30" square) and heavy (90 lbs). Get one if you want to make 16x20 prints. If 11x14 prints are enough, then a 4000 may be overkill. Regards, Clayton Info on black and white digital printing at http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
2005-05-07 by Doug I.
Anyone buying from one of these scam artists is in for a rude surprise, as CS2 *requires* internet or phone registration with Adobe or stops working (after 30 days, I believe). It's like your mother told you...if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. ;-) Another interesting note from the Photoshop Haven group is that apparently if you bought (or buy) CS (full or upgrade) between March 5 and July 3 from a legit reseller and save your receipt, you can call Adobe and get CS2 upgrade for the cost of shipping: ~$6 Doug
> Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 14:02:55 -0400 > From: Mark Savoia <mark@...> > Subject: Re: Re: Photoshop CS/CS2 on ebay > > This should warn all thinking about getting it from certain eBay > sellers. Read deeply. I would not touch it. > > This is the Full and Complete electronically purchased version download > legally from the adobe and professionally created on cd for future use. > The software is vaild for updates and downloads.. it does not qualify > for registration or technical support from adobe >
2005-05-07 by dfaprinting
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@c...> wrote: > The software is vaild for updates and downloads.. it does not qualify > for registration or technical support from adobe > > Sounds like a key generator to me. Considering the phone home portion of the software, I wonder how they get around that.
2005-05-07 by Roy
Clayton Jones wrote: > This analysis may be based on the cost of prefilled carts. I use a > 2200 with the new easy top fill carts and buy ink in 4 oz bottles, so > the smaller carts only mean I refill more often. These carts have > pretty much rendered CIS things obsolete unless you print in huge > volume. Before the new carts, refilling was a messy difficult affair, > and a CIS was more attractive. But they have their own share of > "challenges". The new carts are fantastic, make refilling a breeze, > and have opened the door to experimenting with different ink formulas. > It's a whole new world. > > IMO, larger carts is not a good reason to buy a 4000. Not only more > money, they are huge (30" square) and heavy (90 lbs). Get one if you > want to make 16x20 prints. If 11x14 prints are enough, then a 4000 > may be overkill. > Hi Clayton Thanks for the reply..I also appreciate your website and the discussion on BO printing. I'm going to have to read the section on profiles a few more times for sure. I saw the easy top refillable you mentioned some where but didn't consider them since my one attempt at refiling many years ago left a stain on my memory. If it is as easy as you say it would be far preferable to the hoses and all of a CIS system since I won't be doing any bulk printing at this point. Are there any cartridges that you would recommend or stay away from? I like the idea of clear cartridges. Some more questions for you or anyone else that would like to comment: When I print B&W I'm definitely starting with BO and the Eboni inks on matte papers. Is there any problem using the Eboni ink when printing in color though? Is it OK with ultra chrome or is that where a second black ink comes into play? (I'm suspecting so). Are the MIS 7600 inks really comparable to ultra chrome. I've heard comments that any thing and Epson ink will mess up a printer and void a warranty. Thanks Peace Roy
2005-05-07 by Mark Savoia
Is it me or does this thread need a name change :) Mark On May 7, 2005, at 12:51 PM, Roy wrote: > Clayton Jones wrote: > > > This analysis may be based on the cost of prefilled carts. I use a > > 2200 with the new easy top fill carts and buy ink in 4 oz > bottles, so > > the smaller carts only mean I refill more often. These carts have > > pretty much rendered CIS things obsolete unless you print in huge > > volume. Before the new carts, refilling was a messy difficult > affair, > > and a CIS was more attractive. But they have their own share of > > "challenges". The new carts are fantastic, make refilling a breeze, > > and have opened the door to experimenting with different ink > formulas. > > It's a whole new world. > > > > IMO, larger carts is not a good reason to buy a 4000. Not only more > > money, they are huge (30" square) and heavy (90 lbs). Get one if > you > > want to make 16x20 prints. If 11x14 prints are enough, then a 4000 > > may be overkill. > > > > Hi Clayton > > Thanks for the reply..I also appreciate your website and the > discussion > on BO printing. I'm going to have to read the section on profiles a > few > more times for sure. > > I saw the easy top refillable you mentioned some where but didn't > consider them since my one attempt at refiling many years ago left a > stain on my memory. If it is as easy as you say it would be far > preferable to the hoses and all of a CIS system since I won't be doing > any bulk printing at this point. > > Are there any cartridges that you would recommend or stay away from? I > like the idea of clear cartridges. > > Some more questions for you or anyone else that would like to comment: > > When I print B&W I'm definitely starting with BO and the Eboni inks on > matte papers. Is there any problem using the Eboni ink when > printing in > color though? Is it OK with ultra chrome or is that where a second > black > ink comes into play? (I'm suspecting so). > > Are the MIS 7600 inks really comparable to ultra chrome. I've heard > comments that any thing and Epson ink will mess up a printer and > void a > warranty. > > Thanks > > > Peace > > Roy > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-05-07 by Roy
Mark Savoia wrote: > Is it me or does this thread need a name change :) > Mark I meant to change it but forgot..How come you didn't change it :-) Roy
> > On May 7, 2005, at 12:51 PM, Roy wrote: > > >>Clayton Jones wrote: >> >> >>>This analysis may be based on the cost of prefilled carts. I use a >>>2200 with the new easy top fill carts and buy ink in 4 oz >> >>bottles, so >> >>>the smaller carts only mean I refill more often. These carts have >>>pretty much rendered CIS things obsolete unless you print in huge >>>volume. Before the new carts, refilling was a messy difficult >> >>affair, >> >>>and a CIS was more attractive. But they have their own share of >>>"challenges". The new carts are fantastic, make refilling a breeze, >>>and have opened the door to experimenting with different ink >> >>formulas. >> >>>It's a whole new world. >>> >>>IMO, larger carts is not a good reason to buy a 4000. Not only more >>>money, they are huge (30" square) and heavy (90 lbs). Get one if >> >>you >> >>>want to make 16x20 prints. If 11x14 prints are enough, then a 4000 >>>may be overkill. >>> >> >>Hi Clayton >> >>Thanks for the reply..I also appreciate your website and the >>discussion >>on BO printing. I'm going to have to read the section on profiles a >>few >>more times for sure. >> >>I saw the easy top refillable you mentioned some where but didn't >>consider them since my one attempt at refiling many years ago left a >>stain on my memory. If it is as easy as you say it would be far >>preferable to the hoses and all of a CIS system since I won't be doing >>any bulk printing at this point. >> >>Are there any cartridges that you would recommend or stay away from? I >>like the idea of clear cartridges. >> >>Some more questions for you or anyone else that would like to comment: >> >>When I print B&W I'm definitely starting with BO and the Eboni inks on >>matte papers. Is there any problem using the Eboni ink when >>printing in >>color though? Is it OK with ultra chrome or is that where a second >>black >>ink comes into play? (I'm suspecting so). >> >>Are the MIS 7600 inks really comparable to ultra chrome. I've heard >>comments that any thing and Epson ink will mess up a printer and >>void a >>warranty. >> >>Thanks >> >> >>Peace >> >>Roy >> >> >> >> >>Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other >>resources as they are often being updated. >> >>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint >> >>If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you >>wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by >>visiting this same page. >> >>Please follow these basic guidelines: >>- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages >>to keep them short. >>- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or >>flames. 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2005-05-07 by Peter Page
Clayton, I've been looking all over for re-fill carts for my 2200. If you don't mind, where do you get them? Thanks, Peter Page > >>Clayton Jones wrote: > >> > >> > >>>This analysis may be based on the cost of prefilled carts. I use a > >>>2200 with the new easy top fill carts and buy ink in 4 oz > >> > >>bottles, so > >> > >>>the smaller carts only mean I refill more often. These carts have > >>>pretty much rendered CIS things obsolete unless you print in huge > >>>volume. Before the new carts, refilling was a messy difficult > >> > >>affair, > >> > >>>and a CIS was more attractive. But they have their own share of > >>>"challenges". The new carts are fantastic, make refilling a breeze,
> >>>and have opened the door to experimenting with different ink > >> > >>formulas.