Digital BW, The Print

Lon,

You wrote:

>MIS has quadtone FS inks in 4 and 16 oz. sets.  They also seem to
>have hextone FS cartridges. ...

I think MIS states that you should call them if you are interested in FS
inks in hextone.

I believe the situation is this -- For those using Piezo ink and driver in a
hextone printer, the FS inks can be used by putting the full strength cyan
and magenta inks in both the full-strength and light/"photo" ink positions
for those colors.  That is what the Piezo system does, and it works very
well.  However, if you do this you cannot use the Epson driver.  From my
experience, the Epson driver cannot be controlled in a manner that allows an
acceptable print with the same density inks in the full-strength and
light/photo positions.  So, there is no Woolf curve that works for hextones
and FS inks.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

hextones just duplicate two bottles - just double up.

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "londuck" <lon_c@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:05 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Hextones FS Inks In Bottles ???


> Dear Digital B&W The Print Humans,
>
> MIS has quadtone FS inks is in 4 and 16 oz. sets.  They also seem to
> have hextone FS cartridges.
>
> Does anyone know if they are likely to offer a FS Hextone sets in 4
> and 16 sets in the near future?  I think they are filling FS Hextone
> cartridges, so they should already have the inks.
>
> I posted an email on this issue to MIS some time back.  But it seems
> that an email response from MIS is sort of like winning the lottery,
> you give it a try but it just doesn't happen.
>
> There are a lot of Epson 1200's, 1270's, and 1280's out there and
> the 1160 is getting harder and harder to find.  It would seems that
> if they are interested in this product line a hextone set would
> appear.
>
> Enjoy!   Lon
>
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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:

(snip)

> However, if you do this you cannot use the Epson driver.  From my
> experience, the Epson driver cannot be controlled in a manner that 
allows an
> acceptable print with the same density inks in the full-strength and
> light/photo positions.  

Paul,

What if you leave the photo chambers empty or fill them with clear 
base?

Martin Wesley

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Lon,
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> >MIS has quadtone FS inks in 4 and 16 oz. sets.  They also 
seem to
> >have hextone FS cartridges. ...
> 
> I think MIS states that you should call them if you are interested 
in FS
> inks in hextone.
> 
> I believe the situation is this -- For those using Piezo ink and 
driver in a
> hextone printer, the FS inks can be used by putting the full 
strength cyan
> and magenta inks in both the full-strength and light/"photo" ink 
positions
> for those colors.  That is what the Piezo system does, and it 
works very
> well.  However, if you do this you cannot use the Epson driver.  
From my
> experience, the Epson driver cannot be controlled in a manner 
that allows an
> acceptable print with the same density inks in the full-strength 
and
> light/photo positions.  So, there is no Woolf curve that works for 
hextones
> and FS inks.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com



... that means: for MIS VM Hex printing on a 7000/7500 you need 
the Piezo Pro 24 software ?
B.

Paul,

I have been playing with the FS in a 1280 and have found that a tweak 
or two to your warm curve for the VM inks with the Epson driver works 
as well as the Piezo driver with Piezo inks on EAM. I made 2 or 3 
quick adjustments on the curve and got very close, just need to spend 
a little more time to get it perfect.

I also see that yahoo is messing up the senders ID again, please do 
not respond to the e-mail address that is most likely going to show 
up as I almost never check that one. Oh well been getting all kinds 
of errors from many of the groups lately.

Terry


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Lon,
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> >MIS has quadtone FS inks in 4 and 16 oz. sets.  They also seem to
> >have hextone FS cartridges. ...
> 
> I think MIS states that you should call them if you are interested 
in FS
> inks in hextone.
> 
> I believe the situation is this -- For those using Piezo ink and 
driver in a
> hextone printer, the FS inks can be used by putting the full 
strength cyan
> and magenta inks in both the full-strength and light/"photo" ink 
positions
> for those colors.  That is what the Piezo system does, and it works 
very
> well.  However, if you do this you cannot use the Epson driver.  
From my
> experience, the Epson driver cannot be controlled in a manner that 
allows an
> acceptable print with the same density inks in the full-strength and
> light/photo positions.  So, there is no Woolf curve that works for 
hextones

> and FS inks.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com