Digital BW, The Print

Anyone want to help a newbie digital black & white enthusiast? I 
recently got a Nikon d70 and an epson photo r200 printer. I have 
photoshop CS and know some of the tools. I did lots of darkroom many 
years ago.

I'm sure I'll learn the acronymns quickly but where do I start?

Thanks!
Steve Matten

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Matten"
<smatten@y...> wrote:
> Anyone want to help a newbie digital black & white enthusiast? I 
> recently got a Nikon d70 and an epson photo r200 printer. I have 
> photoshop CS and know some of the tools. I did lots of darkroom many 
> years ago.
> 
> I'm sure I'll learn the acronymns quickly but where do I start?
> 
> Thanks!
> Steve Matten

Hi Steve,

The first place to start is with your printer. 

Printing b&w with color inks is not an easy task if you're looking for
neutral prints. 

Some kind of RIP (Raster Image Processor) is usually needed. You need
to find out if your printer is supported.

Another way to print b&w is to use the BO (black only) method. Can you
printer print only with the black ink or does it always use some color
ink ?

A third way to print b&w is to replace the original Epson inkset with
a carbon pigment inkset, made up of shade of gray. (No color)

Here's a few links to get you started.

Black only printing:
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

Carbon pigment inkset:
http://www.inksupply.com/

QTR Quad Tone RIP for b&w printing.
http://harrington.com/QuadToneRIP.html

Cheers,
André

Thanks Andre.

It looks like a place called Mediastreet has the ink and a QTR/RIP 
for the Epson Photo R200. The set of inks cost just about as much as 
the printer :). But that doesn't bother me, if it works well! I 
figure that I can upgrade the printer later when I know what I am 
doing!

I have tried the BO printing method using the TRI-X workflow on the 
cjcom.net/digiprarts site and it looked good but was grainy compared 
to a non BO image, I guess that is the TRI-X part.

I also bought a package of Epson Enhanced Matte Paper because I 
heard that it was good.

What is the difference between QTR and RIP?

Steve Matten

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Andre" 
<am1000@v...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Matten"
> <smatten@y...> wrote:
> > Anyone want to help a newbie digital black & white enthusiast? I 
> > recently got a Nikon d70 and an epson photo r200 printer. I have 
> > photoshop CS and know some of the tools. I did lots of darkroom 
many 
> > years ago.
> > 
> > I'm sure I'll learn the acronymns quickly but where do I start?
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > Steve Matten
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> The first place to start is with your printer. 
> 
> Printing b&w with color inks is not an easy task if you're looking 
for
> neutral prints. 
> 
> Some kind of RIP (Raster Image Processor) is usually needed. You 
need
> to find out if your printer is supported.
> 
> Another way to print b&w is to use the BO (black only) method. Can 
you
> printer print only with the black ink or does it always use some 
color
> ink ?
> 
> A third way to print b&w is to replace the original Epson inkset 
with

> a carbon pigment inkset, made up of shade of gray. (No color)
> 
> Here's a few links to get you started.
> 
> Black only printing:
> http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> 
> Carbon pigment inkset:
> http://www.inksupply.com/
> 
> QTR Quad Tone RIP for b&w printing.
> http://harrington.com/QuadToneRIP.html
> 
> Cheers,
> André

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Matten" 
<smatten@y...> wrote:
> Thanks Andre.
> 
> It looks like a place called Mediastreet has the ink and a QTR/RIP 
> for the Epson Photo R200. The set of inks cost just about as much 
as 
> the printer :). But that doesn't bother me, if it works well! I 
> figure that I can upgrade the printer later when I know what I am 
> doing!
> 
> I have tried the BO printing method using the TRI-X workflow on the 
> cjcom.net/digiprarts site and it looked good but was grainy 
compared 
> to a non BO image, I guess that is the TRI-X part.
> 
> I also bought a package of Epson Enhanced Matte Paper because I 
> heard that it was good.

EEM is a universally accepted standard and most paper/ink profiles 
sepecifically for matte paper work with it.
 
> What is the difference between QTR and RIP?


QTR is a RIP and a very good one too. Paper/ink profiles supplied 
with it is an excellent starting point. If you have one of the 
supported printers, MIS inks (www.inksupply.com) work well with it.
 
> Steve Matten
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Andre" 
> <am1000@v...> wrote:
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steve 
Matten"
> > <smatten@y...> wrote:
> > > Anyone want to help a newbie digital black & white enthusiast? 
I 
> > > recently got a Nikon d70 and an epson photo r200 printer. I 
have 
> > > photoshop CS and know some of the tools. I did lots of darkroom 
> many 
> > > years ago.
> > > 
> > > I'm sure I'll learn the acronymns quickly but where do I start?
> > > 
> > > Thanks!
> > > Steve Matten
> > 
> > Hi Steve,
> > 
> > The first place to start is with your printer. 
> > 
> > Printing b&w with color inks is not an easy task if you're 
looking 
> for
> > neutral prints. 
> > 
> > Some kind of RIP (Raster Image Processor) is usually needed. You 
> need
> > to find out if your printer is supported.
> > 
> > Another way to print b&w is to use the BO (black only) method. 
Can 

> you
> > printer print only with the black ink or does it always use some 
> color
> > ink ?
> > 
> > A third way to print b&w is to replace the original Epson inkset 
> with
> > a carbon pigment inkset, made up of shade of gray. (No color)
> > 
> > Here's a few links to get you started.
> > 
> > Black only printing:
> > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> > 
> > Carbon pigment inkset:
> > http://www.inksupply.com/
> > 
> > QTR Quad Tone RIP for b&w printing.
> > http://harrington.com/QuadToneRIP.html
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > André