Digital BW, The Print

Just installed a brand new Epson C84 with UTN inks and I'm
experiencing problems.

First, the first few sheets were completely blank -- I mean COMPLETELY
blank.  Now everything I print is too light in the mid tones.  The
blacks are black, the whites are white, but the gamma is off -- way off.

Nozzle checks fail -- all broken lines.  Cleaning heads makes no
difference.

I've updated to the latest Epson driver for my printer.  I've read all
the settings on the MIS' website (that's a bit confusing too).

To add insult to injury, the Eboni Black cartridge is almost empty
after only 3 8 1/2 by 11 prints.

Something's amiss but I don't know what.

Robert Ades

I experienced yesterday problems very similar to yours: I installed 
MIS EZ cartridges in my brand new C86. I first did not undestand I had 
to peel the silver tape off the carts. The first prints were 
completely blank. I then removed the tape, but ever since I did not 
get a single good noozle check. I just managed to print 3 horrible 
pictures, and when I tried to do a Black Only print I got almost no 
ink on the paper ( < Eboni cartridge not working). I left the printer 
off for 24 hours, as suggested by MIS, but when I turned it on again 
the notice "black ink less than 10%" appeared. Indeed, the cartridge 
is almost full, but the printer does not print. I then changed the 
Eboni blach cart with the original Epson Durabrite cart, and the 
printer printed again, even though the noozle check shows a less then 
optimal output from the yellow cart.

To yours knowledge, is there a way to use this Eboni cartridge again? 
Why do you believe this problem happened?

Antonio Bardocci

I wonder if the carts lose their "priming" when one attempts to run them
with the vent hole closed.  Perhaps it ends pulling air into the outlet.  

It might be worth trying to prime the carts. See
http://www.inksupply.com/c84refill.cfm for how to prime the carts.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bard960
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> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Problems with UTN inks and C84
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> I experienced yesterday problems very similar to yours: I installed
> MIS EZ cartridges in my brand new C86. I first did not undestand I had
> to peel the silver tape off the carts. The first prints were
> completely blank. I then removed the tape, but ever since I did not
> get a single good noozle check. I just managed to print 3 horrible
> pictures, and when I tried to do a Black Only print I got almost no
> ink on the paper ( < Eboni cartridge not working). I left the printer
> off for 24 hours, as suggested by MIS, but when I turned it on again
> the notice "black ink less than 10%" appeared. Indeed, the cartridge
> is almost full, but the printer does not print. I then changed the
> Eboni blach cart with the original Epson Durabrite cart, and the
> printer printed again, even though the noozle check shows a less then
> optimal output from the yellow cart.
> 
> To yours knowledge, is there a way to use this Eboni cartridge again?
> Why do you believe this problem happened?
> 
> Antonio Bardocci
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hello...I just made my first 2400 print in "black mode"...I though this 
would be like "Black only" on the 1280 or 2200, and show the dots 
more....don't think so.

Under my 8x loupe, the dots are exactly the same on two identical 
images. The difference seems to be that the "Black" setting does use 
the colored inks. It looks like it does use all three blacks though. 
The print looks marvelous. It seems to be totally "neutral" to me. Keep 
in mind that I think that the "neutral" setting in ABW mode is a teensy 
bit green. I like this mode, and probably will use this when making 
neutral prints. I was using the PK cart on premium semi-gloss. I still 
have not tried the matte black, but I will be making some Velvet fine 
art prints soon. So The 2400 does have Black only mode, and it does not 
involve "dots". Pretty cool...Doug M

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Douglas meeuwsen 
<lipshurt@m...> wrote:
 The difference seems to be that the "Black" setting does use 
> the colored inks. It looks like it does use all three blacks though.
 
 So The 2400 does have Black only mode, and it does not 
> involve "dots". Pretty cool...Doug M

Doug, I'm happy you like the prints, but these two statements are 
contradictory, yes? It can't be 'black only' if it uses the color inks. 
In fact it isn't possible to get a neutral print out of any of the 
Epson black inks, they are all warm and require the color inks to 
neutralize them.

Regards, 

Steve Karafyllakis

Whoops!...I should have said that the black looks like it does NOT use 
the colored inks. At least with my loupe. I had a huge typo there!


On Aug 5, 2005, at 10:27 PM, Steven Karafyllakis wrote:

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Douglas meeuwsen
>  <lipshurt@m...> wrote:
>  The difference seems to be that the "Black" setting does use
>  > the colored inks. It looks like it does use all three blacks though.
>
>  So The 2400 does have Black only mode, and it does not
>  > involve "dots". Pretty cool...Doug M
>
>  Doug, I'm happy you like the prints, but these two statements are
>  contradictory, yes? It can't be 'black only' if it uses the color 
> inks.
>  In fact it isn't possible to get a neutral print out of any of the
>  Epson black inks, they are all warm and require the color inks to
>  neutralize them.


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