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Epson R2400 B&W Review

Epson R2400 B&W Review

2005-08-12 by mxgo95747

Here is a review that I saw on the epson printer forum that may be of interest:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/message/34038

Martin G.

Re: [Digital BW] Epson R2400 B&W Review

2005-08-12 by Scott McLoughlin

Short and sweet, Interesting. Thanks.

Scott

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Re: Epson R2400 B&W Review

2005-08-12 by wwodets

Martin-

I think there are some misconceptions or unclarities in this review.

Mr. Tobie does not state clearly, but I gather than he is using an ICM 
workflow and not the ABW mode.  With the latter, there is a wide range 
of adjustability with the "fine adjustment" sliders, so I would hardly 
call them "canned."  Having arrived at a set of fine adjustment 
settings for EEM and VFA (considerably different settings for two), I 
have very good control over the prints, including the shadow areas.  
These settings are also used to match the prints to the screen while 
viewing a Soft Proof, which is simply 30% Dot Gain, Preserve Numbers.  
This does not simulate paper white, which I can now visualize fairly 
well for the two papers I use.  I am then, of course, printing to the 
ABW driver with No Color Management in CS2.  

If his point is that Epson has not provided Soft Proof profiles for the 
four standard ABW settings (Neutral, warm, etc.), I agree and it also 
occurred to me that Epson might just like a trial-and-error method.  
But having gone to the (considerable) trouble to set up the EEM and VFA 
profiles, the workflow is surprisingly robust, simple and clean and is 
producing very reliable, controlled results from screen to print.  A 
slight tweak of the main curves layer in the file tweaks the print just 
right.

As for the prints themselves, I am finding them spectacular.  Printed 
full-frame at 14 x 9 inches, I'm not sure I've ever seen 35mm 
photography look this good.  The experienced eyes I've shown these 
prints to are generally stunned.  I am looking right now at an ABW 
print of a photograph taken in 1968 that has been printed, shown, and 
reproduced a number of times over many years and I am astonished at 
this print.  It has a tonal scale, smoothness and openess in the 
shadows that I wouldn't have thought possible from that negative.  The 
blacks on the matte papers, by the way, seem visually excellent to me 
and I am comparing them to gloosy-matte-dried gelatin prints of the 
same negatives.




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mxgo95747" 
<mxgo95747@y...> wrote:
> Here is a review that I saw on the epson printer forum that may be of 
interest:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/message/34038
> 
> Martin G.

Re: Epson R2400 B&W Review

2005-08-12 by mxgo95747

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "wwodets" <odets@c...> wrote:
> Martin-
> 
> I think there are some misconceptions or unclarities in this review.

Thanks for for fine review, I was especially interested in your work on the matte papers.  It 
seems that you are quite happy with your matte prints.  

Now, I wonder what Paul Roark will do with this printer?  One more light black cart., 
another ink formula, or what?  Didn't he recently say that 2400 was on route to him?  It 
will, no doubt, be of much interest for us B&W fans.


Martin

Re: Epson R2400 B&W Review

2005-08-12 by normsams

<I gather than he is using an ICM 
workflow and not the ABW mode.>

What's ICM and ABW modes?  Thanks.

Norm

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