Epson R2400 B&W Review
2005-08-12 by mxgo95747
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2005-08-12 by mxgo95747
Here is a review that I saw on the epson printer forum that may be of interest: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/message/34038 Martin G.
2005-08-12 by Scott McLoughlin
Short and sweet, Interesting. Thanks. Scott mxgo95747 wrote:
> Here is a review that I saw on the epson printer forum that may be of > interest: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/message/34038 > > Martin G. > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See \ufffdGroup Topic, Rules and Guidelines\ufffd in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd > AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint>" on > the web. > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >
2005-08-12 by wwodets
Martin- I think there are some misconceptions or unclarities in this review. Mr. Tobie does not state clearly, but I gather than he is using an ICM workflow and not the ABW mode. With the latter, there is a wide range of adjustability with the "fine adjustment" sliders, so I would hardly call them "canned." Having arrived at a set of fine adjustment settings for EEM and VFA (considerably different settings for two), I have very good control over the prints, including the shadow areas. These settings are also used to match the prints to the screen while viewing a Soft Proof, which is simply 30% Dot Gain, Preserve Numbers. This does not simulate paper white, which I can now visualize fairly well for the two papers I use. I am then, of course, printing to the ABW driver with No Color Management in CS2. If his point is that Epson has not provided Soft Proof profiles for the four standard ABW settings (Neutral, warm, etc.), I agree and it also occurred to me that Epson might just like a trial-and-error method. But having gone to the (considerable) trouble to set up the EEM and VFA profiles, the workflow is surprisingly robust, simple and clean and is producing very reliable, controlled results from screen to print. A slight tweak of the main curves layer in the file tweaks the print just right. As for the prints themselves, I am finding them spectacular. Printed full-frame at 14 x 9 inches, I'm not sure I've ever seen 35mm photography look this good. The experienced eyes I've shown these prints to are generally stunned. I am looking right now at an ABW print of a photograph taken in 1968 that has been printed, shown, and reproduced a number of times over many years and I am astonished at this print. It has a tonal scale, smoothness and openess in the shadows that I wouldn't have thought possible from that negative. The blacks on the matte papers, by the way, seem visually excellent to me and I am comparing them to gloosy-matte-dried gelatin prints of the same negatives. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mxgo95747" <mxgo95747@y...> wrote: > Here is a review that I saw on the epson printer forum that may be of interest:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/message/34038 > > Martin G.
2005-08-12 by mxgo95747
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "wwodets" <odets@c...> wrote: > Martin- > > I think there are some misconceptions or unclarities in this review. Thanks for for fine review, I was especially interested in your work on the matte papers. It seems that you are quite happy with your matte prints. Now, I wonder what Paul Roark will do with this printer? One more light black cart., another ink formula, or what? Didn't he recently say that 2400 was on route to him? It will, no doubt, be of much interest for us B&W fans. Martin
2005-08-12 by normsams
<I gather than he is using an ICM workflow and not the ABW mode.> What's ICM and ABW modes? Thanks. Norm