Digital BW, The Print

In frustration that I could not elimiate the color cast from B&W prints 
on my Epson 1270, and dismayed with the lack of quality in BO, before 
jumping in and buying the MIS UT FS set, I opened the Epson R200 box I 
had in my basement for the last eight months (a freebee with my D70).

I was stunned by the quality of the BO prints. Obviously all my color 
casts gone overnight, much less bronzing than on the 1270, deep blacks 
(although it needs some tweaking to lessen contrast compared to my 
monitor), and a visually tighter dot pattern with less apparent banding.

What has made me disappointed however, is something I can only describe 
as a tire track. If I print a 10*8 solid grey test print, on the top 
left corner of the print (the edge that exist the printer first), I get 
a tonal difference that is a bar, about 1.5" from the left margin, .5" 
wide and 2.25" high.  Under a loupe is looks indistinguishshable from 
the rest of the print, but to the naked eye looks like a 
stripe/bar/tire track.

I have run alignment, checked the nozzle pattern, changed the driver to 
version 5.50, tried different paper - all to no avail.

Before I attempt to navigate through Epson support lines, has anyone 
experienced such a thing and know of any likely causes.

many thanks
Keith

Hi Keith;

Sounds like the first cousin to the 'pizza wheel' tracks, the rubber 
roller track. Run a piece of plain paper through right after a print 
and see if maybe you get a similar track on it. If so, keep running 
plain paper through until it comes out clean and try again.If that 
is not the case, the only thing I can suggest, is if you are 
using 'high speed' to turn that off, it might give the ink a bit 
more time to dry before hitting the offending roller. BTW-you do 
realise that the OEM inks in that printer are dyes, and have a 
relatively short lifespan, yes? 

Hope this helps

Steve Karafyllakis

BTW nice little freebie, yes?

-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "fitness2health" 
<fitness2health@y...> wrote:
> In frustration that I could not elimiate the color cast from B&W 
prints 
> on my Epson 1270, and dismayed with the lack of quality in BO, 
before 
> jumping in and buying the MIS UT FS set, I opened the Epson R200 
box I 
> had in my basement for the last eight months (a freebee with my 
D70).
> 
> I was stunned by the quality of the BO prints. Obviously all my 
color 
> casts gone overnight, much less bronzing than on the 1270, deep 
blacks 
> (although it needs some tweaking to lessen contrast compared to my 
> monitor), and a visually tighter dot pattern with less apparent 
banding.
> 
> What has made me disappointed however, is something I can only 
describe 
> as a tire track. If I print a 10*8 solid grey test print, on the 
top 
> left corner of the print (the edge that exist the printer first), 
I get 
> a tonal difference that is a bar, about 1.5" from the left 
margin, .5" 
> wide and 2.25" high.  Under a loupe is looks indistinguishshable 
from 
> the rest of the print, but to the naked eye looks like a 
> stripe/bar/tire track.
> 
> I have run alignment, checked the nozzle pattern, changed the 
driver to 
> version 5.50, tried different paper - all to no avail.
> 
> Before I attempt to navigate through Epson support lines, has 
anyone 

> experienced such a thing and know of any likely causes.
> 
> many thanks
> Keith

Steve,

thanks for the pointers. I presume that you are talking about the 
roller that feeds the paper out of the hopper. This roller, however, 
touches the paper before the inkject. I have tried high speed off, 
but this did not change anything. I cannot see any indentation on the 
front or rear of the paper. I might try cleaning the roller in case 
it has some residue that is coating the paper before the ink hits.

I am surprised that this issue has not happened with others (or maybe 
they don't print a 10*8 solid grey test page!).

BTW - Epson tech support was useless - referred me to a repair shop 
200 miles away.

Regarding the inks, I was trying this printer before going to Eboni 
ink - but am not now so sure - maybe I will stick with the 1270 and 
the UT FS inkset.

Keith Prue


DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Karafyllakis" 
<steve@s...> wrote:
> Hi Keith;
> 
> Sounds like the first cousin to the 'pizza wheel' tracks, the 
rubber 
> roller track. Run a piece of plain paper through right after a 
print 
> and see if maybe you get a similar track on it. If so, keep running 
> plain paper through until it comes out clean and try again.If that 
> is not the case, the only thing I can suggest, is if you are 
> using 'high speed' to turn that off, it might give the ink a bit 
> more time to dry before hitting the offending roller. BTW-you do 
> realise that the OEM inks in that printer are dyes, and have a 
> relatively short lifespan, yes? 
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Steve Karafyllakis
> 
> BTW nice little freebie, yes?
> 
> -- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "fitness2health" 
> <fitness2health@y...> wrote:
> > In frustration that I could not elimiate the color cast from B&W 
> prints 
> > on my Epson 1270, and dismayed with the lack of quality in BO, 
> before 
> > jumping in and buying the MIS UT FS set, I opened the Epson R200 
> box I 
> > had in my basement for the last eight months (a freebee with my 
> D70).
> > 
> > I was stunned by the quality of the BO prints. Obviously all my 
> color 
> > casts gone overnight, much less bronzing than on the 1270, deep 
> blacks 
> > (although it needs some tweaking to lessen contrast compared to 
my 

> > monitor), and a visually tighter dot pattern with less apparent 
> banding.
> > 
> > What has made me disappointed however, is something I can only 
> describe 
> > as a tire track. If I print a 10*8 solid grey test print, on the 
> top 
> > left corner of the print (the edge that exist the printer first), 
> I get 
> > a tonal difference that is a bar, about 1.5" from the left 
> margin, .5" 
> > wide and 2.25" high.  Under a loupe is looks indistinguishshable 
> from 
> > the rest of the print, but to the naked eye looks like a 
> > stripe/bar/tire track.
> > 
> > I have run alignment, checked the nozzle pattern, changed the 
> driver to 
> > version 5.50, tried different paper - all to no avail.
> > 
> > Before I attempt to navigate through Epson support lines, has 
> anyone 
> > experienced such a thing and know of any likely causes.
> > 
> > many thanks
> > Keith

Is it possibly the paper?  Cut it 8 ½ square and turn it 90 degrees.

Best regards,
John Moody

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
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fitness2health
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:22 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Tire track on R200 BO output

Steve,

thanks for the pointers. I presume that you are talking about the
roller that feeds the paper out of the hopper. This roller, however,
touches the paper before the inkject. I have tried high speed off,
but this did not change anything. I cannot see any indentation on the
front or rear of the paper. I might try cleaning the roller in case
it has some residue that is coating the paper before the ink hits.

I am surprised that this issue has not happened with others (or maybe
they don't print a 10*8 solid grey test page!).

BTW - Epson tech support was useless - referred me to a repair shop
200 miles away.

Regarding the inks, I was trying this printer before going to Eboni
ink - but am not now so sure - maybe I will stick with the 1270 and
the UT FS inkset.

Keith Prue




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It is not the batch of paper, because it occurs on glossy and lustre, 
but does not show on matte.

thanks anyway for the thought

Keith Prue

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "John Moody" 
<moodymz3@y...> wrote:
> Is it possibly the paper?  Cut it 8 ½ square and turn it 90 degrees.
> 
> Best regards,
> John Moody
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
> fitness2health
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:22 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Tire track on R200 BO output
> 
> Steve,
> 
> thanks for the pointers. I presume that you are talking about the
> roller that feeds the paper out of the hopper. This roller, however,
> touches the paper before the inkject. I have tried high speed off,
> but this did not change anything. I cannot see any indentation on 
the
> front or rear of the paper. I might try cleaning the roller in case
> it has some residue that is coating the paper before the ink hits.
> 
> I am surprised that this issue has not happened with others (or 
maybe

> they don't print a 10*8 solid grey test page!).
> 
> BTW - Epson tech support was useless - referred me to a repair shop
> 200 miles away.
> 
> Regarding the inks, I was trying this printer before going to Eboni
> ink - but am not now so sure - maybe I will stick with the 1270 and
> the UT FS inkset.
> 
> Keith Prue
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]