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2005-10-06 by mehrdad
hi Paul i use your cool glop curves on the 1280 with the kirkland paper (i use the ilforld smooth glossy) and i also use same paper with qtr and cool profile premium luster. the qtr print are much much cooler. the glop ones are a tad light brown where the qtr are just right here are my questions -- ------------------------------------- regards, mehrdad
2005-10-06 by mehrdad
1) i am doing anything wrong since there so much diffrance between the two, i use PS to apply the curve, then print to 1280 with no color correction and rp printing 2) how can i get the curves to produce a littler cooler? what do i need to adjust? On 10/5/05, mehrdad <msadat@...> wrote: > hi Paul i use your cool glop curves on the 1280 with the kirkland > paper (i use the ilforld smooth glossy) and i also use same paper with > qtr and cool profile premium luster. the qtr print are much much > cooler. the glop ones are a tad light brown where the qtr are just > right > > here are my questions > > -- > ------------------------------------- > regards, mehrdad > -- ------------------------------------- regards, mehrdad
2005-10-06 by Paul Roark
Mehrdad, The two different curves are for different papers. So, their looks on the paper you're using may differ. Have you tried the Premium Semigloss curve? It might be cooler. If you have a curve the works well but is too warm, move the red curve points down (with the curves box showing that dark end of the horizontal axis at the left -- click on the arrows in the center of the horizontal axis if not). To offset the additional cyan ink being put in, move the green curve points up a similar amount. Usually the 50% (127 in RGB) and 25% highlights (191) make the most difference in the look and are also less likely to cause you trouble from the moves. Good luck. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
> -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mehrdad > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 5:07 PM > To: digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: to paul: glop and the new glop curves on 1280 > > 1) i am doing anything wrong since there so much diffrance between the > two, i use PS to apply the curve, then print to 1280 with no color > correction and rp printing > > > 2) how can i get the curves to produce a littler cooler? what do i > need to adjust? > > > > On 10/5/05, mehrdad <msadat@...> wrote: > > hi Paul i use your cool glop curves on the 1280 with the kirkland > > paper (i use the ilforld smooth glossy) and i also use same paper with > > qtr and cool profile premium luster. the qtr print are much much > > cooler. the glop ones are a tad light brown where the qtr are just > > right > > > > here are my questions > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------- > > regards, mehrdad > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------- > regards, mehrdad > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2005-10-07 by mehrdad
thank you pual, i will try these this weekend On 10/5/05, Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote: > Mehrdad, > > The two different curves are for different papers. So, their looks on the > paper you're using may differ. > > Have you tried the Premium Semigloss curve? It might be cooler. > > If you have a curve the works well but is too warm, move the red curve > points down (with the curves box showing that dark end of the horizontal > axis at the left -- click on the arrows in the center of the horizontal axis > if not). To offset the additional cyan ink being put in, move the green > curve points up a similar amount. Usually the 50% (127 in RGB) and 25% > highlights (191) make the most difference in the look and are also less > likely to cause you trouble from the moves. > > Good luck. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mehrdad > > Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 5:07 PM > > To: digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: to paul: glop and the new glop curves on 1280 > > > > 1) i am doing anything wrong since there so much diffrance between the > > two, i use PS to apply the curve, then print to 1280 with no color > > correction and rp printing > > > > > > 2) how can i get the curves to produce a littler cooler? what do i > > need to adjust? > > > > > > > > On 10/5/05, mehrdad <msadat@...> wrote: > > > hi Paul i use your cool glop curves on the 1280 with the kirkland > > > paper (i use the ilforld smooth glossy) and i also use same paper with > > > qtr and cool profile premium luster. the qtr print are much much > > > cooler. the glop ones are a tad light brown where the qtr are just > > > right > > > > > > here are my questions > > > > > > -- > > > ------------------------------------- > > > regards, mehrdad > > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------- > > regards, mehrdad > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > > they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > > page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > > them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > > membership without notice. > > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > > the membership. > > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > > and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files > > section: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > > YAHOO! 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Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > -- ------------------------------------- regards, mehrdad