Digital BW, The Print

After a frustrating several months trying to get a great looking 
print with MIS color pig set, even with good profiles, I switched to 
MIS color dye set, and without any custom profile, absolutely 
beautiful , rich, three D looking neutral b&w print on LPM.
They look spectacular.  No posterization, no sharp jumps in tonality, 
no sacrifices, except in 25 years to 75 years, but you know what.  
For all of the silver prints that I have made over the past 30 years, 
not a one of them has been in a frame on display for 30 years.  Some 
images go on the wall for a few years, then get replaced with 
others.  Even museums that buy photography seldom leave anything on 
the wall for more than a couple of years.
I can live with this drawback untill a longer lasting dye comes 
along.  Its so nice to have that print come out of the printer, 1280, 
and say WOW.
David

Are you saying that the print does not shift "color" as it is viewed under
Tungsten or Daylight?

Wendel

-----Original Message-----
From: daschkenas [mailto:daschkenas@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:08 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] great looking b&w with MIS dyes


After a frustrating several months trying to get a great looking
print with MIS color pig set, even with good profiles, I switched to
MIS color dye set, and without any custom profile, absolutely
beautiful , rich, three D looking neutral b&w print on LPM.
They look spectacular.  No posterization, no sharp jumps in tonality,
no sacrifices, except in 25 years to 75 years, but you know what.
For all of the silver prints that I have made over the past 30 years,
not a one of them has been in a frame on display for 30 years.  Some
images go on the wall for a few years, then get replaced with
others.  Even museums that buy photography seldom leave anything on
the wall for more than a couple of years.
I can live with this drawback untill a longer lasting dye comes
along.  Its so nice to have that print come out of the printer, 1280,
and say WOW.
David



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I'm saying that the prints look great under lamplight, flourescent light, 
window light, moonlight.
David

daschkenas wrote:
> 
> After a frustrating several months trying to get a great looking
> print with MIS color pig set, even with good profiles, I switched to
> MIS color dye set, and without any custom profile, absolutely
> beautiful , rich, three D looking neutral b&w print on LPM.
> They look spectacular.  No posterization, no sharp jumps in tonality,
> no sacrifices, except in 25 years to 75 years, but you know what.
> For all of the silver prints that I have made over the past 30 years,
> not a one of them has been in a frame on display for 30 years.  Some
> images go on the wall for a few years, then get replaced with
> others.  Even museums that buy photography seldom leave anything on
> the wall for more than a couple of years.
> I can live with this drawback untill a longer lasting dye comes
> along.  Its so nice to have that print come out of the printer, 1280,
> and say WOW.
> David

David;

How do these inks differ from the Epson OEM inks for the 1280 besides price?
Did you buy the bulk inks from MIS of the pre filled carts ?

-Jeff

I am using the bulk MIS dyes, 4 oz bottles with a NMC CIS.  A set of 6 bottles is only $48.00.
The difference between the MIS dyes and the epson oem carts seems to be that with the OEm inks I would sometimes get a crossover, mainly slightly cyan shadows with slightly magenta highlights.  With the MIS dyes this isn't happening.
I've only used these inks with LPM so far, I will be trying out some somerset enhanced shortly to see if the results are the same.
David

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "daschkenas" 
<daschkenas@a...> wrote:
Can you tell us more about your printing workflow?  Epson driver 
settings and media choice?