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2005-11-08 by Jim Panzer
Can anyone suggest a good place to buy carts for the R2400, I am going through these things like mad. Also, anyone heard anything about third party carts in the works, say from MIS or anyone? I remember using the Gen 4 inks in my old 1280 with a CFS, that was nice, maybe they'll come up with something like that for the r2400. Jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-11-08 by Paul Roark
> ... anyone heard anything about third > party carts in the works, say from MIS or anyone? C86/R800/R1800 carts are physically compatible with the R2400. The chips are different. The MIS chip resetter will re-set Epson chips, so those can be recycled. I've run MIS 2400 inks in these carts with Epson and MIS chips, but MIS has not put any of the materials on its web. The MIS 2400 color inks appear to be the same as the MIS Pro colors. The LK also appears to be the same. The PK is not the same, since the 2400 (like the R200) needs a lighter load (mix PK with some LK). And, of course, the LLK is new (but extremely close to UT1-Hex-Y). In short, you can put together a 2400 inkset easily from readily available MIS materials. I'm not sure why none of this is on the MIS website. They may just not have enough of all the supplies (most likely chips) to sell them. Alternatively, they may be trying to get a color set that is closer to the Epson colors. I found there were some small but visible differences that might affect the profiles. A CFS for the 2400 is also in the works. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
2005-11-09 by Carl Schofield
MIS now has pre-filled2400 cartridges listed as "K4" inks. However, there is no light light black included in this inkset. I don't know what these inks are. http://www.inksupply.com/epsoncarts_xx.cfm --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > > > > ... anyone heard anything about third > > party carts in the works, say from MIS or anyone? > > C86/R800/R1800 carts are physically compatible with the R2400. The chips > are different. The MIS chip resetter will re-set Epson chips, so those can > be recycled. I've run MIS 2400 inks in these carts with Epson and MIS > chips, but MIS has not put any of the materials on its web. > > The MIS 2400 color inks appear to be the same as the MIS Pro colors. The LK > also appears to be the same. The PK is not the same, since the 2400 (like > the R200) needs a lighter load (mix PK with some LK). And, of course, the > LLK is new (but extremely close to UT1-Hex-Y). In short, you can put > together a 2400 inkset easily from readily available MIS materials. > > I'm not sure why none of this is on the MIS website. They may just not have > enough of all the supplies (most likely chips) to sell them. Alternatively, > they may be trying to get a color set that is closer to the Epson colors. I > found there were some small but visible differences that might affect the > profiles. > > A CFS for the 2400 is also in the works. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com >
2005-11-09 by John Moody
Here is the LLK Product : INK CARTRIDGE ARCHIVAL For : EPSON Item : EPSON R2400 LIGHT LIGHT BLACK CART WITH MIS K4 LIGHT LIGHT BLACK INK Part No : K4-T0599-LLK Price : $10.95 Best regards, John Moody
-----Original Message----- From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Carl Schofield Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:56 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] carts for the R2400? MIS now has pre-filled2400 cartridges listed as "K4" inks. However, there is no light light black included in this inkset. I don't know what these inks are. http://www.inksupply.com/epsoncarts_xx.cfm --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > > > > ... anyone heard anything about third > > party carts in the works, say from MIS or anyone? > > C86/R800/R1800 carts are physically compatible with the R2400. The chips > are different. The MIS chip resetter will re-set Epson chips, so those can > be recycled. I've run MIS 2400 inks in these carts with Epson and MIS > chips, but MIS has not put any of the materials on its web. > > The MIS 2400 color inks appear to be the same as the MIS Pro colors. The LK > also appears to be the same. The PK is not the same, since the 2400 (like > the R200) needs a lighter load (mix PK with some LK). And, of course, the > LLK is new (but extremely close to UT1-Hex-Y). In short, you can put > together a 2400 inkset easily from readily available MIS materials. > > I'm not sure why none of this is on the MIS website. They may just not have > enough of all the supplies (most likely chips) to sell them. Alternatively, > they may be trying to get a color set that is closer to the Epson colors. I > found there were some small but visible differences that might affect the > profiles. > > A CFS for the 2400 is also in the works. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. 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2005-11-09 by Carl Schofield
John, Strange, this wasn't on the page I accessed for the 2400 at the MIS site. Do you have the URL for the page where you found the LLK? Thanks, Carl --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "John Moody" <moodymz3@y...> wrote: > > Here is the LLK > > Product : INK CARTRIDGE ARCHIVAL > For : EPSON > Item : EPSON R2400 LIGHT LIGHT BLACK CART WITH MIS K4 LIGHT LIGHT BLACK INK > Part No : K4-T0599-LLK > Price : $10.95 > > Best regards, > John Moody > > -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Carl > Schofield > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:56 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] carts for the R2400? > > MIS now has pre-filled2400 cartridges listed as "K4" inks. However, there > is no light light > black included in this inkset. I don't know what these inks are. > http://www.inksupply.com/epsoncarts_xx.cfm > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" > <paul.roark@v...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > ... anyone heard anything about third > > > party carts in the works, say from MIS or anyone? > > > > C86/R800/R1800 carts are physically compatible with the R2400. The chips > > are different. The MIS chip resetter will re-set Epson chips, so those > can > > be recycled. I've run MIS 2400 inks in these carts with Epson and MIS > > chips, but MIS has not put any of the materials on its web. > > > > The MIS 2400 color inks appear to be the same as the MIS Pro colors. The > LK > > also appears to be the same. The PK is not the same, since the 2400 (like > > the R200) needs a lighter load (mix PK with some LK). And, of course, the > > LLK is new (but extremely close to UT1-Hex-Y). In short, you can put > > together a 2400 inkset easily from readily available MIS materials. > > > > I'm not sure why none of this is on the MIS website. They may just not > have > > enough of all the supplies (most likely chips) to sell them. > Alternatively, > > they may be trying to get a color set that is closer to the Epson colors. > I > > found there were some small but visible differences that might affect the > > profiles. > > > > A CFS for the 2400 is also in the works. > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. 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2005-11-09 by John Moody
Carl, I just assume that website creation is not a strength at MIS, and search around till I find what Im after, or call them up. I found it in the shop by part number list, knowing that it would start with K4-. Best regards, John Moody
-----Original Message----- From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Carl Schofield Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 1:15 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] carts for the R2400? John, Strange, this wasn't on the page I accessed for the 2400 at the MIS site. Do you have the URL for the page where you found the LLK? Thanks, Carl --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "John Moody" <moodymz3@y...> wrote: > > Here is the LLK > > Product : INK CARTRIDGE ARCHIVAL > For : EPSON > Item : EPSON R2400 LIGHT LIGHT BLACK CART WITH MIS K4 LIGHT LIGHT BLACK INK > Part No : K4-T0599-LLK > Price : $10.95 > > Best regards, > John Moody [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-11-10 by Paul Roark
Carl, > MIS now has pre-filled 2400 cartridges listed as "K4" inks... > http://www.inksupply.com/epsoncarts_xx.cfm They are all on the list now. The carts are said to be totally spongeless. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
2005-11-10 by Steve Kale
Why call them K4? Only 3 can be loaded at any one time and I'm sure it will just lead to confusion. Where's the LLLK? Also they don't seem to be that much cheaper than the originals....
> From: Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 21:26:27 -0800 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] carts for the R2400? > > Carl, > >> MIS now has pre-filled 2400 cartridges listed as "K4" inks... > >> http://www.inksupply.com/epsoncarts_xx.cfm > > They are all on the list now. The carts are said to be totally spongeless. > > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com
2005-11-10 by Greg
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale <stevekale@b...> wrote: > > Why call them K4? Only 3 can be loaded at any one time and I'm sure it will > just lead to confusion. Where's the LLLK? Also they don't seem to be that > much cheaper than the originals.... Might be that Epson has a copyright or some other something with K3.